Blu Ray, HD-DVD, and Porn

[tvguy]

Apologize to anyone who finds this post potentially offensive.
Found this to be an interesting article regarding, Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, and uh....the porn industry.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070119/tc_zd/199033

Speaks about how in the 80s, VHS beat out Betamax partially due to the adult film industry adopting it. And now folks are waiting to see which format will be spurned on by the multi-billion dollar porn industry.

But do we really need to see adult films in HD? Not a fan of porn, and shudder to think about how some er....things look with HD's vivid detail and picture.

[Mike_Lowery]

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With the Net, people still buy porn?

[DiverDown808]

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And to add more fuel to the porn fire, Eddie Van Halen helped out a friend in the porn industry and actually did the soundtrack to one of his movies.

Hi-Def, Surround Sound, Guitar God sountracked porn..............it's gotta be a sign of the apocolypse

DD

[tvguy]

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And to add more fuel to the porn fire, Eddie Van Halen helped out a friend in the porn industry and actually did the soundtrack to one of his movies.

AND won at the AVN (Adult Network News) Awards show recently for said musical compositions!

Best Music –Sacred Sin (Ninn Worx), Eddie Van Halen and Loren Alexander

I'm not giving a link for this.....you can google this if you like.......

[DannyWilliams]

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VHS did not beat out Betamax. They got forced out.
I heard that Beta was more superior in quality and performance versus VHS. When VHS got theirs from the dominance of DVD the ol Beta must have quietly laughed.
I was at a Best Buy Store here on my end and saw a movie in Blu Ray format and
It's AWESOME!
Until I can afford the current asking price I am gonna stick with the system we already have.
As for porn I think it should stay at the format /quality its at.
Do ya really have to see the clarity of whats goin on?

[GeckoGeek]

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Why VHS beat Betamax

It jives with my memory. Beta was first and for a time, the only format. So why did it loose?

The write-up missed a couple of other things too. Not all Beta machines were compatible with each other. Not all Beta II/III machines could play Beta I. How dumb was that?

[craigwatanabe]

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Why VHS beat Betamax

It jives with my memory. Beta was first and for a time, the only format. So why did it loose?

The write-up missed a couple of other things too. Not all Beta machines were compatible with each other. Not all Beta II/III machines could play Beta I. How dumb was that?

Beta was outmarketed by VHS and that's the single most reason why it was defeated. Beta had better video and a better transport system.

It is my understanding that JVC bought the rights of VHS from none other than Sony. Sony bet their farm that their superior Beta was going to outsell VHS so they dumped it. At least that's what the guy at Sam Sung told me back in the mid 70's.

Now regarding High Defiinition and porn...I remember when Super VHS came out which lead to the infamous S-Video jack on high end video equipment for a time...a salesman at Shirokiya told me that the resolution is so good that you could count the hairs on a piece of snatch. Um...yeah.

[craigwatanabe]

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Why VHS beat Betamax

It jives with my memory. Beta was first and for a time, the only format. So why did it loose?

The write-up missed a couple of other things too. Not all Beta machines were compatible with each other. Not all Beta II/III machines could play Beta I. How dumb was that?

All Beta III could play everything but the Beta I's obviously couldn't play II or III.

I remember seeing Beta tapes of movies appear on the shelves at Tower Records when they were across the street on the corner of what is now Walmart. I thought wow I can actually see movies at home when I want! What a concept. Movies cost $65 to buy so video rentals popped up everywhere like Video Center (I still got my membership) which became Video Life. The Beta VCR cost over a thousand dollars at the time and stayed that way pretty much thru the late 70's.

Then in the early 80's Pioneer launched LaserVision while RCA put out it's competing Video Disk. Pioneer's format was superior and it became the way to go for video with two types of tracking: CLV (Constant Linear Velocity) and Constant Angular Velocity or CAV. CLV offered longer run times but CAV offered better resolution.

But the demise of the Laser Disk came when another smaller more COMPACT disk hit the retail floor a couple of years later. With better compression the CD eventually evolved into the venerable Digital Video Disk later renamed the Digital Versatile Disk or DVD.

And the rest is history. Now you can find DVD porn behind every liquor store's register stand in Moilili

[kdramafan]

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Beta was outmarketed by VHS and that's the single most reason why it was defeated. Beta had better video and a better transport system.

It is my understanding that JVC bought the rights of VHS from none other than Sony. Sony bet their farm that their superior Beta was going to outsell VHS so they dumped it. At least that's what the guy at Sam Sung told me back in the mid 70's.

Now regarding High Defiinition and porn...I remember when Super VHS came out which lead to the infamous S-Video jack on high end video equipment for a time...a salesman at Shirokiya told me that the resolution is so good that you could count the hairs on a piece of snatch. Um...yeah.

I was more into the Beta vcrs than the VHS. I think Beta vcrs sold well here in hawaii that other parts of the US. At least they lasted much longer here and were more available here in the last few years before they died out. Maybe that was because of Sony. The last few I brought were Super Beta machines I brought were from Sam Sung.

I also use to take my Beta decks in for cleaning when Shirokiya offered that service for a cheap few.

I wonder how many porno movies were released on Super VHS. My first VHS Vcr was the very first generation JVC model. Sure did not use it for Porno though.

[GeckoGeek]

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Beta had better video and a better transport system.

The video wasn't that much better. I never really noticed the difference. As for the transport - that depends. I tend to get my machines confused, but I know for awhile, some Beta machines would end up completely unloading the tape to FF or REW. Painful. Loading/unloading also took longer as it had to wrap the tape around the head. The VHS "M" load could do it much quicker. The one I used was a more responsive machine.

But the first big issue, VHS could do a 2 hour movie. Until Beta II came out, it couldn't. That's a BIG issue for the consumer.

[GeckoGeek]

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All Beta III could play everything but the Beta I's obviously couldn't play II or III.

Depends on the machine. I distantly remember using one Beta III machine. It had a switch in the back behind a knock-out for switching playback between BII-BIII and BI. I remember reaching around the machine to flip it more then a few times as I moved to different tapes. (This was in a collage Audio-Visual situation, so we had a number of BI tapes and tapes brought in by others.) I also ran into a situation with another deck that looked identical to the one I described, that *didn't* have that switch in the back. As a result, it couldn't play BI tapes. Neither of the two decks could be set to record in BI. Lame, lame, lame. This was a fairly popular deck and I'd seen it around. Top-loading, a row of pre-set push buttons along the right side of the tape opening for selecting the channels. "Piano style" controls for controlling the deck.

I've never seen a VHS deck that didn't work out the playback automatically. Maybe I was just lucky.

I'm sure Beta cleaned up it's act in later years. But by then it was too late. It lost the lead.

[craigwatanabe]

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Depends on the machine. I distantly remember using one Beta III machine. It had a switch in the back behind a knock-out for switching playback between BII-BIII and BI. I remember reaching around the machine to flip it more then a few times as I moved to different tapes. (This was in a collage Audio-Visual situation, so we had a number of BI tapes and tapes brought in by others.) I also ran into a situation with another deck that looked identical to the one I described, that *didn't* have that switch in the back. As a result, it couldn't play BI tapes. Neither of the two decks could be set to record in BI. Lame, lame, lame. This was a fairly popular deck and I'd seen it around. Top-loading, a row of pre-set push buttons along the right side of the tape opening for selecting the channels. "Piano style" controls for controlling the deck.

I've never seen a VHS deck that didn't work out the playback automatically. Maybe I was just lucky.

I'm sure Beta cleaned up it's act in later years. But by then it was too late. It lost the lead.

Super VHS and VHS Digital weren't backwards compatible as well.

[GeckoGeek]

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Super VHS and VHS Digital weren't backwards compatible as well.

Don't know about the digital, but I thought the SVHS could play and record standard VHS tapes.

[craigwatanabe]

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Don't know about the digital, but I thought the SVHS could play and record standard VHS tapes.

it could I guess what I meant was that SVHS couldn't play on VHS without some level of video distortion or noise.
VHS Digital didn't last too long. I bought a JVC unit that could record in Digital but because the screen resolution of most tv sets weren't that remarkable, it hardly made a difference between looking at SVHS and VHS Digital.

[GeckoGeek]

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I guess what I meant was that SVHS couldn't play on VHS without some level of video distortion or noise.

That's expected. I wouldn't expect a Beta I machine to be able to play a Beta II. But when a Beta II/III machine can't record or even play a Beta I, well...

I do recall when SVHS came out that some of the regular VHS machines were made such that they could play back a SVHS. I think it was called "Quasi-SVHS"

VHS Digital didn't last too long.

OK, I was wondering how I missed that. Probably because Mini-DV and Digital 8 were there as well with a smaller cassette and compatibility with camcorders.

On a whole, I think Sony has poor record for setting standards: Think Betamax and Memory Stick. I guess they did better with 8mm, Hi-8 and Digital 8 but again I don't know as they did well beyond the Sony brand (others used VHS-C and mini-DV). And yet this is from a company that does ground-breaking products like the Betamax, Betacam (especially for broadcast - same cassette, different format) and the Walkman. Certainly one of the early leaders of digital photography. Good technology, but I think they must have a problem with navigating the politics of getting a successful standard.