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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:21 PM
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Default State of Radio In Hawaii

Does anyone else find it interesting that there have been no posts to the Hawaii Radio Forum in the past 80 days? Is this indicative of:

1. Reduced interest in radio by the general public?
2. Lack of exciting and interesting radio stations upon which to comment?
3. Consolidation leading to fewer radio personnel, thus fewer potential posters?
4. Fewer live and local personalities on the radio?

I personally think the state of the radio business in Hawaii is at an all-time low. I am amazed at the lack format choices and the relative sameness from station to station. Voicetracking, in general, is poorly executed and has become a cost-saving crutch on too many radio stations. Very few stations have any news presence anymore. The liners (and the voices that record them) all sound alike. Creative commercial production is rare. There is little variety of music. Most of the talk programming is syndicated.

Radio programming in Honolulu, with very few exceptions, is horrible. And on the Neighbor Islands, it's even worse.

Consolidation was supposed to increase programming variety, based on the belief that a group with 2 or 3 or 4 strong billing stations could support and build audience for innovative "niche" programming on 1 or 2 stations. Unfortunately that hasn't happened.

What do you think?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 08:04 PM
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I would respectfully disagree... There is an overabundance of the same musical styles (at one point there were 3 hip hop music stations). There are three "hawaiian" stations (two of them sounding similar). There are 2 adult contemporary stations, and since 939.9 changed their format, 2 "old school" stations. On the AM side, there's a variety of talk radio- sports, Filipino, Korean, evangelical, and a ton of conservative talk radio.

When 93.9 changed their format, hundreds of people flocked to the facebook page.

I wouldn't say that radio is dying here, just not something that's exciting to talk about...
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Old November 17th, 2010, 08:08 PM
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That is true. I barely listen to the radio anymore. I would say about 5-10 minutes of radio every two days.

With my iPhone, Pandora & Podcasts, THats all you really need.

i Know at one point, four stations were playing the same song at the same time. Of course it was different parts of the song, but thats when i said, okay Hawaii radio is at a all time low.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 08:39 PM
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I wouldn't say that radio is dying here, just not something that's exciting to talk about...
I still listen to the radio...but I don't hear much that excites me. Twenty years ago, however, it was much different. Fewer stations, but more excitement, more of a local feel, and 24/7 live programming.

Remember driving home late at night and listening to the live disc jockey? Someone you could even call with a request? Or knowing a storm was approaching on the weekend and tuning to your favorite radio station for information? Geez, radio pretty much failed us a few years ago with Big Island earthquake because most of the stations were on auto-pilot. I don't think things are any better today.

A few weeks ago, I needed to send a press release to the media. No problem finding contact information online for most of the state's newspapers. Radio stations, however, had no links to their news departments (probably because most of them have no news departments anymore) and I wound up emailing program directors, operations managers, sales managers, general managers, etc. Used to be they encouraged news tips. No more. Anyway, when I need to get information quickly, I now turn to the Internet. Not good for Radio.

And the reason you have two "old school" stations is because when one group started to show success with the format, another group jumped on the format with one of their so-so stations to reduce the first station's shares and retain advertising dollars for their group. It had nothing to do with the listener.

Radio isn't dying. But, it sure isn't in the best of shape either.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:40 AM
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The only way a radio station can get more listeners is to have more cash giveaway contests.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 02:58 AM
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I have about 6 radios, and I still listen from time to time... mostly to talk. For music it's usually iPod, iTunes and internet.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 04:38 AM
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I LOOOVE NPR, anytime, anyday! I also like 105 KINE (the hawaiian music station), and I always listen to George Nori's Coast to Coast when I hit the sheets at night. I love our radio options....I only wish there were more!
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(with a thick southern drawl)

"Yessiree, down here in the deep part of the South, we got's us both kines a'music......Hawaiian AND Reggae."
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:48 AM
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I agree that radio here in Hawaii and in the rest of the country is not as interesting as it was 2 decades ago. In the Philippines, radio is a whole lot more interesting to listen to. The Philippines doesn't have Clear Channel, Cox, Salem, or any other big conglomerates notorious for playing the same 300 songs over and over again. Radio in the Philippines plays a much wider variety of music, playing songs you won't hear on American radio. Radio in the Philippines also tells you what time it is. It's a shame that US radio has gone downhill. In 5 years, I'll be moving to the Philippines, where I'll never have to put up with Corporate America radio again.
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Old November 24th, 2010, 02:31 AM
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the number of folks directly working in radio is a lot smaller now than it was even 6 months ago,hence, partially, the fewer posts. Plus radio basically sux totally now. My iPod has 1600 albums...the radio stations play 80 songs. Why bother anymore?
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Old November 24th, 2010, 09:13 PM
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the number of folks directly working in radio is a lot smaller now than it was even 6 months ago,hence, partially, the fewer posts. Plus radio basically sux totally now. My iPod has 1600 albums...the radio stations play 80 songs. Why bother anymore?
iPod lacks talk radio
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Old November 25th, 2010, 01:50 AM
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iPod lacks talk radio
if talk radio offered anything new, I might care. But same old same old:why bother. Rick Hamada ain't gonna say anything new. Neither is Buck,nor any of the sports guys. I'll stick with my 14,000 songs
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Old November 25th, 2010, 03:25 AM
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iPod lacks talk radio
iTunes has it's own version...podcasts!
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Old November 26th, 2010, 01:08 AM
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The Golden days of radio ain't no more...I think with the advent of personal music players such as the iPod and other MP3 players plus with the proliferation of too many top-40 lists, people have become more tuned into their own music. As far back as the mid 80's there was ONLY ONE Top 40 list to read about. Now music is broken down by genre.

Radio was once upon a time, manned 24-hours a day with a live DJ to take your calls anytime of the day or night. Now on some radio stations even the midmorning and on drive times are voice-tracked with no one there to answer the phones.

About a month ago I visited my old dive at Clear Channel Hawaii. Sad to see the KSSK-FM studio on autopilot without Kathy with a K at the helm that Saturday, phone bank blinking madly and no one there to answer those callers.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 01:23 PM
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... phone bank blinking madly ...
Which shows that people DO still listen to radio.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 06:28 PM
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I see that when Parrot Broadcasting bankrupted, KHBC, KIPA, and KONA-FM went silent, that was a few weeks ago. Any updates on them going back on air?
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:43 AM
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Still static as of today
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 09:32 PM
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Radio started it's serious decline in 1970 when good AM and underground FM went away, after 1990 there was nothing but college stations playing anything listenable/new/exciting.

Radio was it's own killer with blind corporate greed, and now that billions of one-time and new listeners are used to other things coupled with the net options... it's over, even tho it could be revived it won't. That's why they must instead play to society's lowest common denominator to survive at all, and unfortunately scraping the barrel's bottom pays off.
itunes etc. could have billions of typically mediocre selections and I'll still stick with my awesome collection of really great music that keeps getting better without them, or bad radio.

Talk/sports radio is just pathetic and Hawaii's radio music content died long ago, then when KCCN tossed the old good Hawaiian, it was finally buried.
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Still static as of today
No static at all, FM.
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Old December 4th, 2010, 03:45 AM
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No static at all, FM.
Still static...on FM 92.7
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I think economics have killed radio. With the modest little 7 station maximum ownership rule there was no incentive to come up with ridiculous prices for stations. If you over pay for a station the only way to make the numbers work is to fire staff. Radio's selling point was its immediacy and you cannot have that with syndicated or streamed programs. Its impossible. It is competing with new and often superior technologies without its biggest selling point. Doesn't seem like that can possibly succeed.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 01:22 AM
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No static at all, FM.
more people bought the soundtrack than saw the movie.Too bad: it was very prophetic
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more people bought the soundtrack than saw the movie.Too bad: it was very prophetic
But it was a damned great soundtrack!! Linda Rondstat rocked back then!!
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Radio dying? Stale?

[Ahem!]

There's more choices in radio programming,.... NOW. More than ever. Thanks to the internet.

Check out Live365. There, you will find more than 6000 stations at your fingertips. All of them with far fewer commercial time than the typical terrestrial radio outlet. And you'll find many stations specializing in genres that are either under-served or totally unavailable in your local market.
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I listen to radio from 0700 - 1700 every M-F. Sat-Sun 0700-1300. But it's all national programming from NPR/PRI. I know HPR has local programming at drive time, but I'm cooking/watching TV news at that hour.

About the only local programming I hear is HPR's Jazz with Don Gordon after 2200 or so every night, and its country hour Full Nelson with Tim Vandeveer 2200-2300 Sunday nights.
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