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Old April 4th, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Service to the Big Island is scheduled for 2009, via Kawaihae. There are already rumblings by some protesters about that.
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Old April 4th, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Service to the Big Island is scheduled for 2009, via Kawaihae. There are already rumblings by some protesters about that.
This is why it needs to come to Hilo.
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This is why it needs to come to Hilo.
On one hand, the infrastructure in place to support HSF to Hilo. But it is my understanding, that HSF has deemed going to Kawaihae more feasible versus Hilo. For starters, they don't want to traverse the rough channel between Maui and the Big Island, and a trip between Oahu and Hilo would take something like 4 hours to accomplish. On top of that, I'm sure fuel costs come into play here.
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Old April 6th, 2008, 04:54 AM
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It's okay with me if they don't go to Hilo - I'll just drive over from Kawaihae. It's also a good jumping-off point to Kona.

My friend bought a car in Honolulu, but Young Brothers had no opening to ship his car to Hilo for two weeks. Kawaihae had an available slot in three days. He and his secretary took the afternoon off and she drove him to Kawaihae to pick up the car.
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I certainly would prefer the HSF to dock at Kawaihae versus Hilo. But again Kawaihae is much closer for me than Hilo . As far as I understand they are planning on using one of the existing piers at Kawaihae for the HSF to use until the new pier is ready to go (Which may be awhile).
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:56 PM
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ATA has closed so I presume a few OGG to mainland flights are now gone.
The answer in one word is NO. Alaska Air will be picking up some of the passengers that ATA ferried to Maui beginning in July with direct daily flights from Seattle and Anchorage (seasonally) to OGG (they already have direct daily flights to Lihue and Honolulu).

The opposition still exists on Maui, but everybody is laying low and watching the weather and the Barf O Meter prognostications (plus there's another couple of lawsuits in the works--one on Maui and one on Kauai). Interesting the difference in the coverage of the trip on Monday between the Maui paper and the Honolulu ones, too, with the Maui News highlighting the low rider counts and 1/3 of the people aboard becoming seasick, while the HA and to a lesser extent, the SB, decided to focus on the positive experiences of a few passengers.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:01 PM
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Is the ferry gonna make it now that the season is upon us that supposedly will allow them to sail without leaving folks stranded for several days in a row? Will people flock to the thing, yet? why didn't the airline problems give the thing more than a hundred or so passengers?
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The answer in one word is NO. Alaska Air will be picking up some of the passengers that ATA ferried to Maui beginning in July with direct daily flights from Seattle and Anchorage (seasonally) to OGG (they already have direct daily flights to Lihue and Honolulu).
Were ATA's flights also "seasonal" or were they year-round? The answer to that could change the one-word answer.

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Interesting the difference in the coverage of the trip on Monday between the Maui paper and the Honolulu ones, too, with the Maui News highlighting the low rider counts
Well sure they did. But they conveniently forgot to include the fact that SuperFerry wasn't scheduled to return until April 23, and instead started two weeks earlier and with only a couple of days' notice. Pretty darned hard impossible to sell out the entire ship with only a couple of days notice.
The Maui News has clearly unreasonable expectations. The FACT is that the turnout of ridership was rather impressive, given the extremely short notice.
Of course, one would have to be unbiased to admit that fact. Maui News doesn't qualify as unbiased.
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why didn't the airline problems give the thing more than a hundred or so passengers?
See my answer in the post above. It's very obvious, when you think about it.
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I haven't seen any advertising regarding the Superferry's return except for what was mentioned in the news media and on their website.

As for seasickness, it occurs on all ships. I talked to some passengers who sailed from Japan to Honolulu aboard the QE2 last month, and they mentioned getting motion sickness after that big ship ran into some large squalls along the way to Hawaii. Seasickness is just a fact of ocean going travel and is to be expected for some people and on some trips.
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As for seasickness, it occurs on all ships.
When I was 16, I took a cruse from CA to HI. First day out from the coast I discovered what "dry heaves" was. I don't remember the rocking was that bad. I think it was more the vibration. I was fine the rest of the trip.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 01:37 PM
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Low ridership or not, acknowledgment that the ferry is carving out a niche market is good.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:18 PM
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I haven't seen any advertising regarding the Superferry's return except for what was mentioned in the news media and on their website.

As for seasickness, it occurs on all ships. I talked to some passengers who sailed from Japan to Honolulu aboard the QE2 last month, and they mentioned getting motion sickness after that big ship ran into some large squalls along the way to Hawaii. Seasickness is just a fact of ocean going travel and is to be expected for some people and on some trips.
Heck people get sick in an airplane! One of the good things about the HSF that I haven't seen mentioned is the fact that there are a few people that simply have a fear of flying. My wife's co-worker couldn't handle flying and quit her job because she couldn't take a mandatory flight to Las Vegas for a conference. And the company was going to pay for all of her travel and per diem expenses!

When I worked for the Gas Company, I had to ship our calibration gear to each island via air cargo (YB's handling of the equipment simply destroyed much of our test gear). Then I'd have to fly to that particular island and beg each island's office for a truck to transport the equipment to each location to test at.

With the HSF, I could simply load the equipment onto my company owned Chevy Silverado and drive it to each island and not worry about transportation.

HSF really makes sense, especially for commercial operations. Less vehicles needed for each island.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 10:30 PM
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From this Breaking News item:

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Hawaii Superferry says it will add a second voyage four days a week between O'ahu and Maui.
The afternoon voyages start May 9. They are scheduled to leave Honolulu at 3:30 p.m. and arrive in Kahului at 7 p.m.
The return voyages are scheduled to leave Kahului at 8 p.m. and arrive in Honolulu at 11 p.m.
The afternoon voyages will operate on Sundays, Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
The current one-way fare for passengers is $39 and $55 for passenger vehicles for travel through June 5.
"An afternoon voyage will benefit our customers who want the convenience of traveling later in the day," said John Garibaldi, president and CEO of Hawaii Superferry. "This second round-trip voyage will also greatly benefit our commercial customers, offering them the opportunity to return the same day as well as enhancing flexibility in reaching their markets."
The morning voyage will continue its daily summer schedule of departing Honolulu at 6:30 a.m.; arriving in Kahului at 9:30 a.m.; departing Kahului at 11 a.m. and arriving in Honolulu at 2 p.m.
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Didn't the Hawaii Superferry have to roll back a second Maui trip a few months ago after they again jumped the gun in terms of making arrangements with Maui officials? I hope this latest announcement comes after they got all their ducks in a row.

The return trip from Maui is interesting. Late afternoon departure, 11 p.m. arrival in Honolulu. Imagine seeing the sunset at sea, and the lights of Waikiki late into the evening. It has the makings of a romantic dinner cruise. Maybe they can capitalize on that, using the upgraded forward cabin? Add some live music and an upgraded menu, and I think you've got something here.
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Exactly! if the food is upgraded a bit I would think that people will have parties on the thing. That's what I have imagined for them all along. I haven't been on the thing yet but I tell ya, when I see folks relaxed on the thing on television they do look really comfortable, and then the view.....ahhh.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 01:48 PM
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Didn't the Hawaii Superferry have to roll back a second Maui trip a few months ago after they again jumped the gun in terms of making arrangements with Maui officials? I hope this latest announcement comes after they got all their ducks in a row.
It appears HSF has learned and done their homework this time.


O'Halloran said the company has talked with Maui Mayor Charmaine Tavares, who criticized Superferry officials in January for attempting to start a second trip without consulting the county. That service was postponed from its scheduled start of Jan. 16.

"The Superferry's addition of four additional weekly trips to Maui comes in the wake of new developments in the travel industry and the void left by Aloha Airlines," Tavares said in a statement.



I suspect HSF has revised their business plans from their experiences and with the recent developments in the state, 2/3 less NCL cruises, no more Aloha, possible no more Aloha Air Cargo. I suspect they will focus on the Oahu-Maui route and maybe should even increase the frequency to 3 trips, a red eye, for primarily business needs if the load factors justify it. When the second boat arrives, it will then be Oahu-Hawaii, though I wonder on that route, can they do a Oahu-Maui-Hawaii down the road if they ever expand beyond two boats.
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11 p.m. arrival in Honolulu. Imagine seeing the sunset at sea, and the lights of Waikiki late into the evening.
You kind of get the opposite effect going out on the early morning trip from Honolulu. When I went in December the lights along the city were mostly still on as the dawn sky was breaking. The sunrise was good, however I did not get any photos since we at that time were sitting in the back and 2 of the 4 people in our group were beginning to get seasick (not me, I was good to go both ways). I had brought some crackers along for the trip and it kind of sort of helped one of the girls.

On another note, it has been a little over 2 weeks now, and Superferry has sailed to and from Maui and Oahu daily with no problems. Hopefully they can prove their reliability and pick up more passengers as well as hone in more on the cargo segment.

I have to agree that 2 trips to and from Maui in a single day will expand their cargo capabilities and allow businesses to make single day trips without having to stay overnight.
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Some interesting SuperFerry developments today, with a new CEO and increased ridership:
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Retired Navy Adm. Thomas Fargo, newly named president and chief executive officer of Hawaii Superferry, yesterday said the company will continue to focus on providing regular, reliable service to the state's residents, visitors and businesses.
The former head of the U.S. Pacific Command is assuming the helm of the interisland ferry service as it recovers from a shaky start marred by a lengthy legal battle, protests, rough seas, and problems with its $85 million catamaran and docking facilities.
Fargo, 59, will take over on Monday from John Garibaldi, who will remain with the company as vice chairman and a member of the board of directors. Company officials would not comment on the reason for the leadership change, but said Fargo is joining the $250 million enterprise at a time when passenger and vehicles loads on the Honolulu-to-Maui sailings are growing.
The move also follows action by chief investor J.F. Lehman & Co. to make a "substantial increase'' in Superferry's capital base that "will definitely get us through this startup period and the delivery of our second vessel" next year, said Tig Krekel, vice chairman of the investment firm.
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Fargo's appointment likely will fuel longstanding speculation, sparked by Lehman's involvement in the company, that the high-speed, aluminum-hull catamaran's true intended purpose is as a transport for the 19-ton, eight-wheeled armored vehicles attached to the Army's rapid-response Stryker brigade on O'ahu and the Big Island.
"I'm a Navy guy," Fargo chuckled when asked about possible Stryker duty.
He said civilian customers must be able to rely on a regular daily schedule, and that cannot happen if the 350-foot Alakai is taken out of service for military charters.
"The success of this company will be built on its commercial operations and moving passengers and commercial freight between the islands. The ferry is for the residents and visitors and businesses of Hawai'i," said Fargo, who has sailed on the Alakai three times so far.
Garibaldi added that the military is welcome to book space on regularly scheduled voyages just like any other customer.
The Alakai is capable of carrying 866 people and 282 cars.
Superferry officials had projected a daily one-way passenger load of 400, but in the days leading up to the start of drydock repairs in February, the average load was 115 people and 40 cars from Honolulu to Maui, and 87 people and 39 cars on the return leg.
Yesterday, the vessel transported approximately 350 passengers and 100 vehicles from Honolulu to Maui, company officials said, and about 250 people and 70 cars on the return trip.

Garibaldi said business interest in using the ferry has accelerated due to uncertainty over the fate of Aloha Airlines' cargo operations. Among the Superferry's commercial customers are Love's Bakery, which will start regular shipments to Maui on Monday, he said.
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Greetings from the superferry. We are onboard with the girls in Kahalui Harbor. We are just doing the round trip. I almost cried getting on in Honolulu, thinking about the jobs and the service and how fragile its existence is. I really like it. The crew is very hospitable and the food prices aren't outrageous. Kid 1 has no sea legs so we've had to take turns taking her to the back deck for fresh air. We are now leaving the harbor.
We parked in the muni lot beneath the FFF bldg, which is free on Saturdays and we took a cab $10 from there.
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Too bad they didn't report the volume of business cargo. I would say that will determine if the ferry will be a profitable venture or not.
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got an email from hawaii superferry by tom fargo, introducing himself as the new CEO and announcing summer fares:

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With summer just around the corner, I am pleased to announce that traveling on Hawaii Superferry is even more convenient now that we’ve added a second daily voyage four days a week between Maui and O‘ahu. This is just one of the many ways we are beginning to reach our full potential as a reliable, responsible transportation option and experience for Hawai‘i’s residents, visitors, and businesses.

Reservations for afternoon voyages are now open and are eligible for our promotional $39 one-way passenger fares and $55 one-way passenger vehicle fares available now through June 5. Our summer fares of $49 one-way passenger fares and $65 one-way passenger vehicle fares start June 6 for travel through September 30, 2008.
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Looks like ridership is ever increasing.
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Looks like ridership is ever increasing.
We haven't had time to do it yet but a ride on the Superferry is definitely something we plan on doing.
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