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Old February 3rd, 2014, 05:19 PM
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Honolulu especially is becoming a powder keg of increasing hostilities and unless 'the powers' do something sensible about the homeless, housing, and economic situations it's going to soon explode in rampant violence due to more people, many of them total losers of myriad reasons, being increasingly tossed out of their fragile home situations and into the streets where they go directly to the bottom and seek the easiest ways to survive. And when it get's worse for them their frustrations lead to outbursts against people and property. They're often desperate and falsely proud, too shamed to admit they suck and are going to turn a festering problem into much worse and we've seen the evidence mount as street altercations, assaults, and murders become regular. We've long had punks cruise the streets, breaking store windows, spraying graffiti, looking for trouble and victims, but now it's spilling over and nobody is even thinking about it because most of those who can do anything don't face those problems like the regular middle or lower classes do. It's ugly out there and getting worse fast, you only hear about a fraction of the cases.
HPD need to increase their numbers and get out on foot patrol regularly and mostly at night instead of merely riding in cars or the occasional mass downtown ticketing exercises.

Our neglectful politico's, our stingy corporate moneybags, our decidedly helpless community leaders, and a suddenly enraged financially better off public, are every bit responsible for these problems if only by ignoring them or embracing blatantly misguided policies and now want to cry about what they let get out of control when it could have been maintained at low levels if not in fact eliminated the majority just with some caring thot. But NO! They simply don't want to do the basic things that are needed to ensure a strong society, even when things get this bad, or worse.

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This Sunday's SA ran another "Housing comes first" article which revolves the same old hackneyed and grossly limited proposals that will and have had minimal to zero success. The housing first debacle is now on hold due to City bungling of recent big $$$ deals that fell thru, so even that is out. Yet they still ignore the truer and most cost efficient ways to address the issues and pretend to give a rat's ass with temporary housing and such, which while these can have some positives it's simply not going to do that much when dealing with primarily the worst case individuals. Most of those people will not benefit by the current poor ideas in the long run, it's futile, but that's the bandage approach that the officials love because they have to say something, anything, to make it look like they're doing something/anything. But it's all BS. Temporary housing may be suitable especially for families but it's just an avenue to the numbingly impossible rat race that will sooner or later stifle almost all re-entries. And forcing enrollees to submit their meager paychecks to others to decide where and how it's spent is a non-starter for most. The latest "goal' by the Hawaii Pathways Project, which won't even come up in a search, is to get a whopping 120 of the worst cases into permanent housing with medical attention and social services is more crap that will have minimal benefit to anyone. The worst will mostly always be where they are because in their minds they are where they want to be and want ultimately to be left to their own demise. That the chronic Oahu homeless population is numbered at under 700 is absurd, and the overall homeless population at under 5000 is again way off mark. The majority of homeless aren't countable, therefore aren't counted, and most don't want to be counted.

On Feb. 12, 12:30pm @ Community Meeting Room of the Community Development Authority, 461 Cooke St., Pathways To Housing's http://pathwaystohousing.org/ founder, Sam Tsemeris will speak and the public is able to attend. This organization is credited with great successes in ending homelessness in the nation by largely using methods that I've decried. Homeless Czar, Colin Kippen will probably be there as well. We'll see what Mr. Tsemeris has to say and if public statements/questioning will be allowed.

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Old February 7th, 2014, 01:30 PM
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An op-ed in today's SA by Kahului's Mark Saxon reminds us that "Back in May 2011, Gov. Abercrombie announced his 90-day plan to end homelessness in Hawaii."
He keenly adds; Astute observers noted that the timetable of this plan coincided with the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference, when Pres. Obama/other leaders would be in town. This, Gov. Neil noted was a "happy coincidence".
Now with a budget surplus of 800.5 mil maybe a 'happy coincidence' something could be done to eliminate homelessness in Hawaii, and if not give that money back to the citizens that earned it.

A fraction of that much would cover the majority of needs if used wisely.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 04:09 PM
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Sunday's SA ran a piece saying how "Islanders Perceive homelessness worsening". http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?acti...1&id=245928551

Of course it's worsening and will be getting much worse, but the perception is obscured by the fact that many long term homeless have had their nite time place of repose options steadily eliminated and are increasingly seen on the streets now simply because they cannot hide out any more.
Like Denise Mazzanti of Hawaii Kai say's about how our politicians are making unwise decisions, "It's a sin, our Gmt. can throw billions at a wasteful rail system, but it cannot put up affordable housing." Nor will they do anything basic and humane to benefit their own communities against the civic blight.

Here's examples of shipping container homes that have been available nationwide for decades, at least 750,000 are sitting idle currently in the US, enuf to house virtually all the 2 million who are without. And it's the same wasted opportunities seen in city after city and countless disaster areas that still suffer after years and billions spent for zip. At this stage whole towns need to be built up to get anywhere near solving the problem. http://www.berkeleyside.com/2013/11/...d-to-berkeley/
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Old March 2nd, 2014, 05:27 PM
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Today a typical taxpaying friend tells me of his unfortunate circumstances last nite having suddenly found himself on the streets late at nite and in need of emergency shelter only to be denied entry at IHS (Institute For Human Services, what a sick joke!) just before their curfew of 10pm. They told him he needed to register first and pony up $90 for even 1 minute, as they don't do one niters, so he was on his own and out of luck on a rainy nite. This is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE, especially as he clearly saw tons of space available on the main floor where he said not even half of the space had people matted out for the nite. Tons of space and no refuge from the storm for my friend and whomever else has discovered this pathetic truth.
For years we've heard of how grand IHS is in their efforts to help the homeless and videos of great meals served (both of which no doubt do ocassionally happen) and such, meanwhile the State is haranguing everybody they can that actually do help people in parks or stress sites without asking questions or requiring anything and trying to force everything thru IHS who get's tons of State/taxpayer $$$ and $12.50 for every (supposedly) SQUARE MEAL served, probably a thousand a day. The uninformed public constantly decries the visual human blight with exclamations of how those on the streets often just won't go to the shelters provided, well now we know that they can't unless they got $90 first and foremost, or I think $60 at the Kakaako shelter, and that one you need way more time to even qualify.
Somebody needs to investigate this total BS and get to the bottom of why the powers are in cahoots with IHS to scam the public and provide a major disservice to the community, to say the very least. Meanwhile they go on about how the new millions are going towards only helping 120 of the worst cases out there instead of doing anything that actually makes a difference.
Those that are in charge of doing, are doing nothing but scamming the community. Beyond pathetic!
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Old March 4th, 2014, 02:05 PM
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To see for myself, I repeated my friend's attempt at no cost emergency homeless shelter last nite at IHS and it was identical to what he experienced as I stated previously, but I had a comfortable evening to fall back on, of which he now doesn't, nor do any of the many others that desperately need it.
These lying ripoff assholes need to go!
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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:27 PM
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We have heartless morons for political leaders.
A million dollars will go into trashing personal possessions The City deem fit to confiscate ala misdirected actions against the homeless instead of using the money and workforce to accomplish these current goals and much more that would actually benefit the communities to a great degree. But no, just be cruel and stupidly wasteful while falsely stating it's all about keeping the sidewalks clear for pedestrians when of course there are plenty of heavily blocked sidewalks well known to HPD and constantly ignored. In fact, The City's own planters around Thomas Square violate the disabilities
laws. http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?acti...y&id=250585551
The pathways of China/downtown and Honolulu in total are filthy, flat out disgusting trashways of nasty (and criminal activity) that should be cleaned nightly (where needed), this would keep street level encroachers from settling in for long and keep them and window bashers moving along as well as making the environment clean, safer, and welcoming for the rest of us to start every day instead of endless human crap and destruction.

And in another poor State move said to be aimed at helping shelters feed the homeless, an emergency exemption the Lingle administration issued in 2007 allowing groups to prepare food for the needy without having to do it in state-certified kitchens will soon lapse and the Health Dept. says that regardless of (effectively) a 7 year study which showed not a single case noted of any health problems they will insist on restricting cooked foods to only those prepared in certified kitchens. State Health head Peter Oshiro claims that while the groups can still provide food it will only be such as canned food, saimin, hot dogs/sandwiches, salads, and incredulously insists that "You can make a very nutritious meal with minimal facilities". This is just another needless exercise in harassing those that want to help OUTSIDE of State preferences and force everything thru a few suspicious agencies that can't or won't do the jobs needed in proper fashion instead of doing things that might actually help. http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?acti...y&id=250585521
Oshiro states that the dept. rules allow the waiving of permits for exactly those in their gun sights, so why bother making tougher rules then? Let's see how many they grant...
Homeless Czar Colin Kippen said he would be monitoring the regulations as to how they impact the homeless. Really? How? Who's he gonna put in charge of all that and at what costs?

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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:07 PM
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Another episode from the political officials doing nothing and making things worse Dept. http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?acti...y&id=253166591
Korean community groups and residents of Pawaa Park are upset at the residing homeless population there and how they and others use the sculpture placements as toilets.
Well, if they are allowed to camp there or even expect people to enjoy the park yet nobody provides even portable facilities, what do you expect? Besides, it was a homeless haven before they started erecting all the ugly art works, at least now we know who is responsible for these things.
Politicos have largely caused and acerbated the street life problem and always turn a blind eye while only excellerating mean and unjust measures to harass them instead of doing even the most manini things that could improve matters. Housing First is their only big deal and it'll prove a too small scale yet wasted mega-bux failure for many obvious reasons.
Nearby resident, Rex Kim says he doesn't want to walk his daughter thru the park and that "The park is for everybody in the community, it's not right for a few people to hijack our public parks. It just kind of burns me. There are many services available, so I don't understand why they need to do that".
Mr. Kim is part of the problem, in that he is typically mad and (like many people) ignorant of facts and how the bums do not have free emergency shelter and significant services that will allow them a chance of getting out of the park that he thinks doesn't include the current portion of the community he dislikes to enjoy. The parks are indeed for everybody, even those you don't like. And of course the newspaper doesn't say anything about these facts and issues, just let's the foolish negativity go on.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 03:21 PM
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http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y
The faces of two un-ID'd homeless men that recently died of natural causes in public are on the SA's front page http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y
I think I've seen them both over the years, how many others just slink off like cats when it's the end and are never known in later life or in death?
We really suck as a society.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:43 PM
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As if it needs to get worse? http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?acti...1&id=254311021
The SA editorial staff is part of the problem when it can't help but perpetuate serious falsehoods and ill advise their readers about the homeless and issues regarding them. They said today;
"Let's be blunt. Honolulu is not the city it once was. Neighborhoods are dotted with homeless encampments, from Waikiki to Kakaako, Moiliili to Iwilei with belongings crowding public parks or sidewalks. It's no way to live, yet there are thousands of people on Oahu living that way despite the availability of space in various homeless shelters and spending $22 million for Housing First solutions."

I take great issue with two points already. Downtown and surrounding areas of Honolulu used to have 'tin can alley' residential space accommodating no and low income inhabitants, but developers and rogue political friends were often able to wrangle past a largely indifferent public and cite the area as sub-standard and got all but the core of Chinatown redeveloped with highrises and higher rents without providing for those displaced. Coupled with Reagan tossing the mentally handicapped out on the streets it co-developed a society that fell thru the cracks and increasingly had no place to go.
Another major but poorly reported matter is that even those that want to get off the streets during storming or emergency situations are not allowed drop-in entry to the one homeless shelter on Oahu, the Institute For Human Services, unless paying $90 up front for even just one night. No free emergency shelter available, period. Yet the SA constantly prints and generally misconveys that there are no-costs/strings attached shelter and services available but those on the street simply won't take advantage. Not to mention the thousands homeless everywhere on Oahu, but shelters are only located in Honolulu and some West sides to accommodate.

The editors then continue the assault with "We as a community need to galvanize a commitment to enforcement that will firmly prod the chronically homeless into such housing by making the streets much less of an option".
Who the hell are they to even suggest prodding of any citizen on the mere basis of not preferring an individual's existence? And to compound the audacity with atrociously herding people into concentration camp-styled dwellings against their will, no matter how ill-equipped, unsanitary, unsafe, or insufficient the oversight and management of such shelter is as evidenced at IHS? This is absolutely unacceptable BS. People are on the streets because of beaurocratic mishandlings and now those same kind look to blame and abuse those they've hurt the most from the start.

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Old April 16th, 2014, 08:01 PM
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Damn, if things weren't stupid enuf, now comes the news that IHS is requiring those that merely want a meal (with the fucking State full court pressing feeding options elsewhere to cease in order to specifically force everything/everybody thru IHS' doors when they don't have food enuf for those already showing up because they systemically steal the tons of great donated food) must register with photograph taken and are not allowed to even bring their backpacks to meals. This essentially eliminates this pitiful ditch from consideration for a major percentage of needy people that are already struggling for food everywhere on Oahu. It really doesn't get much lower than refusing hungry people food and shelter, but that's where we're at with this inhumane admin. and it's crony cohorts IHS and the Health Dept.
With this and the fact that IHS won't take anybody in for just one nite no matter the emergency unless they pony up $90 first, means IHS is getting plenty of all our tax dollars and not doing squat to help the problems everybody is facing. They need to be thoroughly investigated and if found worthless (at best) to have those culpable removed/charged and replaced with proper management and accountability assured. This whole thing is beyond absurd and totally bogus, these people are messed up and many need to go, starting with Neil and his Czar.

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Old April 16th, 2014, 11:48 PM
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Ron,
Without you, we would be ignorant of all these abuses and shortcomings.
People keep coming to the islands to live, and the net effect is replacing those who are unable to 'pay their way.'
Most homeless don't choose to be homeless, but there are a few who choose Leeward beaches and forests as 'their home.' They are a minority. Most homeless are forced into homelessness by the economy, government restrictions, unemployment, etc.
Our State has been doing a good job at criminalizing the homeless and otherwise ignoring their needs.
I thought this was the Aloha State? We will have to turn in our license plates and retire the State motto if we don't fix this.

I have no worthwhile suggestions; the State, the C&C and the Feds are all deeply in debt (as I am told) and are managing our meager resources to please the 'status quo,' rather than looking into this serious and growing problem.

Ron, keep up your good work.
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Old April 17th, 2014, 07:54 PM
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Nice to at least hear some concern, kaonohi, it's more than I often hear from those in the homeless business.
There's so much legit ignorance in the community about the realities that I'm not surprised the picture is skewed for many since the SA and media keep giving errant comments that always make the bums look even worse when they are just the tip of the iceberg relating to the huge number of homeless and even more near it. People have been pushed to the brink, everybody is punchy today and near panic being so stressed with crazy costs of the most basic stuff to survive normally that starring at losing their homes, possessions, and maybe even their families that something is going to give, and that time is rushing now with these latest insanities. The scale has now tipped in favor of the harshest actions against those struggling by our elected and appointed to where drastic measures need to begin now to correct the wrongs.
And I don't buy the old "we're broke" BS when they can blow multi millions constantly for you name it and rampant waste. They simply refuse to address the issues in real terms and sustainability, just wave the Housing First flag and off to the next party at our expense. Maybe they are so out of touch that it's excusable but I fear there is something far worse going on, it's like they actually want people dead from starvation and exposure. The stinking republicans here were better, and that's a very sad fact.
Choosing to be homeless: Long ago when I was working and living a quasi-normal life I got fed up with the rat race and never able to keep a rental for long no matter how good things were, so I went au natural and camped out in my hood of Kaaawa for two years and it was great. I can do homeless in Hawaii like a champ, I thrive, but few are able to get past their issues and situations. So yes, there are some who do choose to be homeless but there are wide ranges of reasoning behind it for each person, but most do not prefer it and would jump at a decent home if they wouldn't be pressured about lifestyles, rent, and whatevers. Not gonna happen but there are answers towards helping sufficiently, but the powers have no desire except to harass, displace, criminalize, and distort the picture while smiling at the camera.
I've started making the rounds about all this, talking to members at River Of Life, Care-A-Van, and other help agency officials to see where their heads are at. The good folks at ROL are not happy about the latest crap at IHS, noting IHS gets many millions yearly from the State and now they are dumping people by the thousands, meanwhile River is going to be inundated with hungry people while they are barely able to handle in any meager fashion what they got now. At CAV the best upper-level person I spoke to had no idea what crap is happening at IHS, which says a lot right there, and simply stated that I needed to get a grass roots campaign going if I wanted to get anything done. Nobody in an organizational setting that I've yet found has been powwowing to put any type of plan together and organize an affront to anything. Today I'll start emailing everybody in the big square building and elsewhere to get them a better picture of what's happening, seems they're all in the dark and will never do something worthwhile being ignorant. We'll see who replies, and how.
It just get's worse and worse with our politicos on these matters without any reason behind it as tho mean and stupid are all they got and it's so hard to do something worthwhile.

Last nite I heard city ambulances were becoming infested with bedbugs, costing thousands of $ each month and the street bums they constantly deal with are getting the blame. I guess nobody suggested getting a few old heaters from Goodwill and baking the bugs a couple of hours each month for cheap. Just wait til the fire ants get in.

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Heh, heh.
And the tiny black ants, and the snakes.... Oh yes, we have them here.

But really, YOU are needed! Someone who not only cares, but has the TIME to care.

Homelessness is NOT an individual issue, but a humanitarian issue. Your posts seem mostly ignored because most people (even here) don't know what to do, and they are embarrassed.

I'm embarrassed, cause I don't know how I can help! I twice let homeless camp on my land, and I was abused, let down, and disappointed. Perhaps I did not select well. Yet I realize the homeless need homes; whether a tent city or individual squats, or collectives (as I saw successful in Waianae), they need a place to stay where they can access necessary resources.
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Time. That is one of the main problems in dealing with political issues period, virtually nobody has time or mental space to spend on simply keeping up with true info or separating misinfo, and our rogue poli's abuse that fact to sneak tons of total BS onto legislation and into law, or past the laws, or ignore immediate issues. Physically it looks like I'm doomed to having plenty of time to focus on issues, and I got plenty of community minded irons in the fire yet it's no fun, instead it's so frustrating to fight the endless tidal surge of public ambivalence and ignorance, even by the street people themselves to a huge degree. There is no grass roots condition to start with in getting something generated at the street level because so many of those that need the help will not get off their asses even for a minute to save their own lives. I'll bet I can't get 10 Chinatown sidewalk swillers to merely promise to meet at the Capital for a protest, it's almost pointless to try with anyone downtown.
Endlessly informing and pressuring our politico's and media sources on the abuses by some and real avenues of positive change is probably the only way to get anywhere worthwhile. The media usually loves a good scandal and if this can gain traction it might make headway.
Even in good times I congregate occasionally with a few street friends and stay up on the garbage they can relate so I know what's happening and what may work and what probably won't. I can understand the "embarrassment" of those that don't have the insight to know what the realities are, but the public needs to know fast and start getting mad at the right people, those who created the homeless problems and those have maintained the mentality and are now making things even worse, and doing it at the worst time instead of improving when they have all the power to do so much better.
Couple all that with this IHS scandal and readers better believe that quickly exacerbating social ills are going to hit the fan soon if drastic and exact measures aren't implemented quick. Like they say, k, we're judged by how we treat those below us, both individually and collectively. We all have our failings but this is one collective clusterfuck that will bite us big time.
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Time. That is one of the main problems in dealing with political issues period, (...)
Endlessly informing and pressuring our politico's and media sources on the abuses by some and real avenues of positive change is probably the only way to get anywhere worthwhile. (...)
but the public needs to know fast and start getting mad at the right people, those who created the homeless problems and those have maintained the mentality and are now making things even worse, and doing it at the worst time instead of improving when they have all the power to do so much better. (...)
Like they say, k, we're judged by how we treat those below us, both individually and collectively. We all have our failings but this is one collective clusterfuck that will bite us big time.
Remember to study the actions of our politicians (NOT THEIR PROMISES), and vote accordingly.
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Remember to study the actions of our politicians (NOT THEIR PROMISES), and vote accordingly.
My wife pointed out to me this morning that after supporting a project that is costing gouts of taxpayer money (but will probably not relieve traffic congestion), removing half the trash containers from parks, removing support for the Humane Society, and proposing to charge for garbage collection, our mayor has just approved a raise for himself. Why do I mention this in a thread about problems of the homeless of the city and county of Honolulu? Because in Ron's postings, it's always Abercrombie who is the bad guy. Seems peculiar.
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Greg, if it was my own dear old departed Mother doing these things I'd be saying at least the same if not more as I'd have much more and easier contact to the source to known wtf is actually going on, and if it was as bad as it seems and directly linked to her there would be major problems until it was resolved. I don't give a shit who it is, this has to be dealt with big time, now. OK?
Homelessness should have been a focus decades back, but there was basically only the issues of homeless in Ala Moana park being bantered prior to stupid Neil getting elected, then Mufi kicked them out and that started the big bad homeless ball rolling on the South shore. Neil comes in and anoints his Czar, who then does nothing worthwhile, at least obvious to the general public eye yet corrals the Health Dept. to help starve the hungry along with the rogue IHS who are long in need of serious investigation, now more than ever. Sorry, but it's gotten infinitely worse under shithead self serving crony sucking Neil in nasty inhumane ways that is soon to have repercussions well beyond what we've all been dealt so far, and he needs to go fast. Let's see what the next guy can do.
BTW, You do know that I supported Neil forever and voted him in as Gov., right?
Got any helpful suggestions?
Wanna help storm offices, maybe go to jail, or even die in pursuit of justice and accountability?
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Yes, the one thing all lawmakers(breakers) approve. Their own raises.

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Lot's of typical crapola in today's SA but the cover story isn't on the site currently.
Plenty of blaming the homeless and assuming it's always them doing bad things when many are doing all the same things and often for the same reasons. Many people steal in Waikiki, panhandle, block access', or pee/poop in public when bathrooms aren't open or available to them, nothing new but the isolated blame is.
Members of Waikiki's visitor industry are saying enough is enough, others whine about it hurting business or crippling the $15 billion tourism industry and even our economy, some of them say they want to be part of the solution. What a joke, they have no clue what to do on a workable and fiscally feasible level. But they do have nasty ideas, like legislation that would prevent homeless from trespassing at hotels and taking over the sidewalks. Like what, make them instead of wearing a star with JEW on it put a sticky tag that says HELLO, my name is homeless? Also stated is that these tourism officials have comped rooms and meals for solution experts coming to Honolulu to conduct training, which IMO will largely be useless. Maybe they should use that time, effort, money, to give some needy persons the same. They also want at least one of the restrooms in all of Waikiki to be open 24 hrs. Wow, what a concept! Maybe the City will even clean it, but that's doubtful. And they want the parks and beaches open to all. Huh, I didn't know these places were closed off exclusively for bums to use. Oh, they're not, maybe these crybabies just want Waikiki exclusive for those who have plenty of money? It's pretty much that way now, so it's not a stretch to think this.
The article notes that with the homeless count (as of '13) in Honolulu at under 5000 (way low) there are 785 chronic homeless (stupidly low), yet the highly vaunted Housing First, the City/State's big and only thing towards a solution will max out at 200 of the worst.
One main villain, Connie Mitchell of IHS says the homeless have to get past individual challenges and into shelters and permanent housing (there is no permanent housing, that's a misnomer, only temporary), as tho all homeless are challenged by mental problems or chronic drug useage.
Never a mention of a shitty economy, no good jobs, impossibly high rents and basic food costs, etc. No, it's always because they all have personal issues, meanwhile her agency is seriously hurting the public by refusing everybody in need of food and shelter at her grossly insufficient dumps in Iwilei which the State wants to ram everything/body thru no matter what part of the island they live and shut down all others that try to help. She also wants those who are able-bodied to work, well la di da... "We invite people to come in and will try to get them stabilized to the degree that they are able to contribute to the community". But only those willing to pay her $90 a month to live like crap with rampant theft of belongings the norm, abusive/filthy/extreme co-habitants, lousy conditions, kicked out for any little infraction or whim of staff without your money back, etc.
Mayor Caldwell's spokesman says The City has has regular meeting with stakeholders in Waikiki (what a surprise...) and visitor industry and service providers, but again no mention of receiving any input from those who may actually know what's going on at the street level to help guide talks towards realities, like the basic fact that the mainland has weather that makes homes critical to survival, but in Hawaii you don't and can live outdoors easily which removes a lot of incentives for many to consider what little they offer.

All this bluster and muster, while nothing of note will get done regardless of many millions spent when the one thing they need to do, provide free individual compact homes just bigger than a doghouse that can't be abused and placed in a communal setting somewhere, they won't do. It will be a new city thanx to the endless ignorance and neglect of our political shysters. And that's giving them the benefit of the doubt that the reasons aren't much worse.

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I have not been following this thread from the beginning so if I am duplicating what has already been said my apologies.
Here are some of my random thoughts about the homeless situation.
Back in the late 60s maybe early 70s many cities had vagrancy laws. What I remember about vagrancy laws from that time was that if you had less than a certain amount of money in your pocket and no visible means of support you could be cited. Punishment could be just being driven out of the city limits and dropped off by the nearest hobo camp. The courts deemed those laws were too vague, cities now do not have such a laws.
Another court action that seems to have had a major effect on the homeless situation is they deemed a mentally ill person cannot be forced into a mental institution unless they are in danger to themselves or someone else. One has to wonder how much that had to do with personal rights as opposed to reducing the governmentís financial burden.
I am skeptical of Mayor Caldwellís housing first program. It looks like a very slippery slope to me. First Mayor Caldwell says this works elsewhere but where is elsewhere and has anybody checked to be sure itís actually working? Itís not above some of the people that run these programs to falsify their data to keep the project going.
If you give a person a home then they will find reasons to have food delivered and free bus passes etc.
When the people who are just barely getting by struggling at low-paying jobs see that the homeless are better off than they are they will quit their jobs and paying their rent and wait for the government to give them a home.
I also wonder how effective it would be because they would probably only have a few homes and probably not be able to house all of the homeless we have on the island. There will probably still be a lot of people in tents in our parks.
Last summer my wife and I were in the Boston area, we drove around to Lexington down to Rhode Island and all over that area. We did not see any homeless camps and I donít really remember seeing any homeless in the two weeks that we were there. I think it would be a good idea if Honolulu sent a delegation to the Boston area to see what they are doing.
I donít believe there is one solution to the problem. More likely there will be nearly as many solutions as there are homeless people.
Ron you seem to be pretty much up on the situation. It you were named the citiesí czar for the homeless what would you do to make things better?
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Thanx for your interest and input 68, please don't take what I say in response highly against what you've said, nothing personal.
We haven't even graduated to the level of hobo camps or tent cities in Hawaii since the abandoned but sensible housing efforts in Haleiwa 20 years ago. Tent cities are a disaster waiting to happen, you can't regulate and protect people from abusers in that situation, and it's a pathetic manner in which to view/treat human beings. The old 'we are judged by how we treat those below us' is paramount here and officials have punished our whole society enuf with neglect, further punishment is unacceptable. They in fact are largely to blame for our increasingly sick situations and now that it's hitting the fan internationally they pretend to care and look for solutions like Bush looked under exclusive dinner tables for WMDs. They have created a culture that once cared and tried but has learned to do with almost nothing and do it without a house due to nice climates year round, they don't need no stinking high rent and restrictions, so there go the incentives for many to change. Housing First is total shibai, it's a political smokescreen to say 'we're doing something, don't look at us'. It'll help the very tip top of a huge iceberg at best, but for how long? Newsflash, mentals can't maintain! So that's extremely limited focus. Everything else will remain the same (meaning getting worse every day) despite the many millions thrown away solely for PR. I think our poli's know it's going to get much worse and why some are trying to get draconian laws passed to force the bums out of sight but not to help a bit. Millions are currently being spent and planned for various studies and ventures but most are just spinning their wheels with all that money, here's one that actually may have hope using shipping containers for mini homes http://www.hiappleseed.org/housing but I haven't checked it out enuf to know exactly where the flaws are.
Another problem with officials is they always comment on the very worst cases and then make an Olympian vault over the near 10,000 general public homeless straight to families because they have no real answers concerning the masses of single persons.
Boston? This may help with answers, but remember, Boston freezes for months each year http://www.bphc.org/whatwedo/homeles...ommission.aspx

Concerning: If you give a person a home then they will find reasons to have food delivered and free bus passes etc. When the people who are just barely getting by struggling at low-paying jobs see that the homeless are better off than they are they will quit their jobs and paying their rent and wait for the government to give them a home.
At this stage of the game I'm all for giving and giving and giving until we've regained the upper hand completely. If we don't, then forget about any solution, we are so deep in the hole that merely regaining the last 5 years will require extreme benevolence by all, no matter how much many will hate it. The hidden haters are certainly at least as equally to blame for the mess. Who needs millions of people not even getting by on insanely pathetic $7 an hr. when we're the richest nation on earth with grotesque corporate hoarders and throw away trillions every year, or 6 tril alone on a BS war in the mid East? That's a weak community and society ripe for the picking by bad elements as we've increasingly witnessed across the mainland for decades and have doomed them, we need to greatly recover in Hawaii and build a better environment or again, just forget about it and enjoy what we have wrought. Homeless..., yes, give them a friggin home. Besides, that erosion of desperate renters will make rents come down to where the middle class can recover too.

What would I do? Start by going to prison for kicking the shit out of all our culpable politicians, vile special self-interests and money baggers who've created all this just to get my happy disposition back..., then get plenty of land and build a new city with all the shipping containers available and invest in 'smart' security and restrictions to disable rogue elements and maintain civility and control. Make them small so no crybaby would complain much because they'd be so dinky few would even put their dog inside, just enuf room to inhabit ala prison, with prison-like destruction proof fixtures for a bathroom/kitchen area and bed space. A person could have their privacy and dignity, be able to leave and keep belongings secure, water, electricity, and wireless so they can improve/advance their lives if they choose or just be safe and out of sight from those that can't stand to see them. Cost a lot? Sure, but less in the long run if done properly than what we're doing now.
However, even this in it's ultimate version will not cure the worst aspects of the homeless, many of whom will remain where and how they are no matter what is done for them or just say no to any restrictions. You can't help everybody, nor make them disappear. Waikiki will always have 'undesirables' simply because they are people too and have equal civil rights to be with everyone else in public spaces. The ugly genie will not be rebottled, we blew it long ago. It's high time to stop sucking.
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Forgot to mention, Sunday at 6pm I swung by IHS (The Ditch) to see how many hungry people would be in line for dinner at exactly the time of the day and month that would have the most in need, as I know of no other group that does Sunday dinner of any degree. Normally there would be a line extending to the street now that most have exhausted their State benefits after 2 weeks, but now with the heartlessly pointless demands IHS has newly imposed there was virtually no line. I guess Ditch management scum can now pilfer even more donated food meant for the needy since very few out of the usual 1000 mouths each day will be getting fed. I've talked to many acquaintances lately and they are sucking shit because they can't get in for a simple single meal without pitching their belongings first.

Today's SA editor's Our View continues misinforming the public with favorable comments on Housing First and systemic shuffling of bodies off to shelters, as tho there will be welcoming arms for any of them when they get there unless they are willing and able to pony up $90 immediately and able to conform to whatever requirements imposed.
And they suggest there is an "expanding list of accommodations" that I'd like to be fully informed of, because if one who has his radar up for these things has no clue what their talking about then few other will either.
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It keeps getting worse.
A source tells of actual video showing IHS staff from the men's shelter selling hard drugs on the property, specifically the nasty attitude female behemoth that man's the intake window and loves to say no while eating humongous plate loads of donated food that further denies the hungry and shelterless they habitually neglect. C_ _ _ _ _ is her first name, and a big C she is.
All my usual street sources no longer go there now even for a single meal because of the unacceptable requirements and restrictions.
Look for an uptick in street crimes directly related to IHS's outrageous conduct.
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Interesting news, a woman commented today on her pursuing a Class Action lawsuit against IHS personnel with some disturbing allegations and a supposed recording of a Director, the well known con Jerry Coffee, caught threatening her. So this could add to the hopes of shining a big light on illicit shenanigans there, but she's going against the State as well, they won't let things get too far if they can help it.
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Just off the phone with an editor at the SA who responded to my direct email and will try to get further interest there to pursue many of the things I've detailed here into print. She was surprised to hear of the $90 IHS imposes on the needy to pass their soiled doors, illustrating how uninformed even media personnel can be even tho they cover the issues constantly. Hopefully this will start turning pages towards correcting so many wrongs and shoot for some real goods, but those with the power need to stop the endless NO's.
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