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    This unit is gradually driving around the surface of Mars.

    The amount of microwave tech required to contact this machine boggles

    the mind.

    I think there are primitive forms of life on Mars but they will be found in

    caves and lava tubes as compared to the harsh surface environment.

    Communicating with a device underground will require a relay point.

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    Here is the JPL Mars Science Lab site.
    Greg

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      Just yesterday Yahoo News had a story about a planet found about 5 light years from here that is in the liquid water zone for its star, so it has potential for life. Something has to be done to get around the speed of light speed limit if getting out even 5 light years is to ever be possible. But I remember as a kid being solemnly told in no uncertain terms that it was absolutely and forever impossible for humans to ever reach the moon, so...who knows? Seems little doubt, though, that if humans are going to colonize in space the first step will be the moon and Mars the second. Mars has the potential for being terraformed, oceans and an oxygen rich atmosphere added by directing ice ball asteroids into its atmosphere. All of course given some incomprehensible energy source. But what can be done usually is, eventually. This computer, even TV would be incomprehensible miracles to intelligent informed people at the start of the last century.

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        Why should we spread our civil disease any further? We've wasted our own earth for what's here now and failed the test as human beings. We've got rovers on Mars now, we know that everything is mostly made of the same stuff our planet is, and maybe we'll discover artifacts of prior civilization there as well. We don't need to worry about going to other solar systems, we need to work on us, and hope for an upgrade to D.
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          Re: Curiosity Martian Probe

          Originally posted by Kalalau View Post
          Seems little doubt, though, that if humans are going to colonize in space the first step will be the moon and Mars the second.
          But there is some doubt. There is a proposal to send astronauts to Mars to Stay, and forget the moon. That saves money by not paying for a Moon base and not paying to get the astronauts back to Earth.
          Greg

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            We don't even have a grip on our own environment, we've tossed off further learning the important lessons right in our own backyard. We need to save and correct ourselves first, and those needs won't be found elsewhere.
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              I think it is a basic drive, an instinct of life itself. From the first slime that grew on rocks, the first fish that emerged from the sea, it has gone on as long as there has been life; the Polynesian navigators who explored the entire Pacific, the Spanish navigators who explored the Atlantic. Its a biological drive like reproduction or breathing and eating--colonizing, expansion, we couldn't resist it even if we wanted to. Once humans evolved in Africa how long did it take humans to colonize Europe and Asia and eventually some human set foot on Tierra del Fuego. In fact some human set foot on Antarctica. And on the moon.

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                True, K, but there's still more extremely important discoveries here than to waste exploring any further in space than the moon and manned missions to Mars. The rovers are doing fine and maybe there's more concerning the moon we could benefit from, but way more at home. We've only scratched the surface here, where all our priority lessons to be learned are, but yet to be discovered. The $$$ it'll take to send man to Mars is better spent on issues we currently need to address.
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                  The early Polynesian voyagers set the pace for immense voyages across

                  uncharted seas

                  They did not let the naysayers


                  stop their early voyages across

                  uncharted waters.

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                    Curiosity Mars rover finds soil similar to Hawaii's!

                    Nasa's Curiosity rover has found soil on Mars to be similar to Hawaii's after sifting and scanning its first sample on the Red Planet. The robot's CheMin instrument shook out fine particles of soil and fired X-rays at them to determine their composition. These sandy samples should give clues about Mars' recent geological history. As had been theorised, much of the sample is made of weathered "basaltic" materials of volcanic origin, like that seen on the islands of Hawaii.

                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20151789
                    Life is either an adventure... or you're not doing it right!!!

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                      Amino acids have been found in several meteorites. That implies life might have developed somewhere in space before it ever got to Earth. Life does get around even when it is guided only by blind chance, like a hurricane blowing a wind borne seed to isolated islands in the middle of the North Pacific, or a meteor by blind chance happening to crash on earth billions of years ago. But life guided by lets say...intelligent design...(us)...has a much better chance of successfully colonizing islands, continents, or planets. Maybe if there actually is some drive guiding life evolution of an intelligent species, us, with the ability to create space travel, fits in.

                      I remember a time...driving down I-5 from Seattle to Portland in Seattle I noticed a yellow jacket climb in behind the outside mirror, and when we got to Portland it climbed back out and flew away. Interesting. I wondered if this just an isolated incident or if it was some behavior yellow jackets or other insects might have perfected over the last several decades. Insects so often seem to act with...intelligent design, purpose.

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                        Re: Curiosity Martian Probe

                        Originally posted by Kalalau View Post
                        Amino acids have been found in several meteorites. That implies life might have developed somewhere in space before it ever got to Earth.
                        We are all alien parasites here, perhaps. Carl Sagan would remind us: "Some part of our being knows this is where we came from. We long to return. And we can. Because the cosmos is also within us. We're made of star-stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."

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                          Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                          "We're made of star-stuff."
                          Let's not get carried away. Sagan is talking about elements, not molecules, amino acids, bacterial spores, or whatever.

                          Should we seed Mars with terrestrial organisms, to begin the process of terraforming?
                          Greg

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                            Originally posted by GregLee View Post
                            Sagan is talking about elements, not molecules, amino acids, bacterial spores, or whatever.
                            And how do you propose the existence of the latter without the former, Greg?

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                              Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                              And how do you propose the existence of the latter without the former, Greg?
                              I don't understand your question. I'm not implying that we could have extrasolar bacterial spores here without having extrasolar carbon. Rather, I'm saying that extrasolar carbon, what Sagan was mentioning, is uncontroversial science, while the presence of extrasolar bacterial spores is entirely conjectural. We are made of inorganic star-stuff. Earth might have the only life in the cosmos.
                              Greg

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