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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:37 AM
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Costco Waipio was at $2.08/gallon last Friday and seems determined to attract every vehicle on the island to their pumps. They've been aggressively lowering their prices for the last few months.

Every time we've gone by there (weekday mornings/afternoons) they've been lined up solid with waits of 15-30 minutes. We don't even go near the place on weekends. Anyone have a good time to fill up there without long lines?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 01:41 PM
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At its peak, it was costing $60 a fill-up. Now, my last three have been in the high $20-low $30, for PREMIUM! I used a $100 Costco Cash-Card, which still has an $11 balance.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM
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I miss the high gas prices. Traffic has gotten noticeably worse, and if gas prices stay this way, it won't get any better.

Gas prices need to be high, and they need to keep going up. It's the answer to so many of our problems.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 04:10 AM
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Gas prices need to be high, and they need to keep going up. It's the answer to so many of our problems.
Assinine thinking.

Like it or not, the number of hybrid and flex-fuel vehicles are on the increase. So even if gasoline prices do go sky high in the future, it may do little to relieve traffic as more and more motorists purchase cars that run on alternative fuels like electricity, ethanol, or compressed natural gas.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 07:48 AM
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Just returned from almost two-week drive up to Boise / Meridian, ID via Reno.

Prices as I gassed up: Boise $1.55, Nevada from $1.67 (in Winnemucca) to $1.85 (in Reno), Bay Area from $1.57 (Tracy, CA) to $1.77 (San Jose now).

I don't automatically need two 20s to buy gas anymore. After seeing Honolulu prices, no complaints here.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 01:51 PM
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I miss the high gas prices. Traffic has gotten noticeably worse, and if gas prices stay this way, it won't get any better.

Gas prices need to be high, and they need to keep going up. It's the answer to so many of our problems.
Although, I understand where you are coming from on this point, the answer to our transportation policy is a new, innovative way of thinking, from governement officials down to the driver on the street.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Assinine thinking.

Like it or not, the number of hybrid and flex-fuel vehicles are on the increase. So even if gasoline prices do go sky high in the future, it may do little to relieve traffic as more and more motorists purchase cars that run on alternative fuels like electricity, ethanol, or compressed natural gas.
Other factors missing from the equation, even with increasing number of hybrids, the premium hybrids have over regular models still is an influencing factor on purchase. Also, no matter how much better gas mileages hybrids get, it won't change the situation of number of cars on the road, unless we're gonna see a slew of new models physically half the size of current cars.
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I miss the high gas prices. Traffic has gotten noticeably worse, and if gas prices stay this way, it won't get any better.

Gas prices need to be high, and they need to keep going up. It's the answer to so many of our problems.
Higher gas prices have more to do with the number of cars on the road. It increases everything else we pay for. I think we were all be better off when the Arabs kissed our asses.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 03:12 PM
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Like it or not, the number of hybrid and flex-fuel vehicles are on the increase. So even if gasoline prices do go sky high in the future, it may do little to relieve traffic as more and more motorists purchase cars that run on alternative fuels like electricity, ethanol, or compressed natural gas.
If we could replace SUVs with economy cars, it'd still be an improvement, but traffic is the smaller problem. If we can replace the majority of gas-burning cars with hybrids and flex-fuel vehicles, we've made a lot of progress even if traffic doesn't improve.


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Although, I understand where you are coming from on this point, the answer to our transportation policy is a new, innovative way of thinking, from governement officials down to the driver on the street.
Now that, I completely agree with. The problem is getting everyone to adopt the new innovative way of thinking.

Scientists and environmentalists have been preaching the same story for years -- carpool, buy economical cars, drive sparingly, use public transportation, etc. Nobody listened until gas prices started skyrocketing. There isn't a faster and simpler way to get people to adopt environmentally-friendly practices -- and do so with a better rate of compliance and participation -- than to make gas expensive. I know it sucks, but that's just how people are.

The problem is nobody is going to vote for a public official that supports high gas prices, even if it's what we desperately need.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 03:20 PM
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Higher gas prices have more to do with the number of cars on the road. It increases everything else we pay for.
Sure. Nobody said it was going to be easy.

Remember how bad it was in the 70s? Skyrocketing gas prices, many years of double-digit inflation? Nobody back then would've said the oil crisis could possibly be a blessing in disguise, but now, 30 years later, we can see that it was.

We established a national speed limit (which was implemented to save gas, not necessarily for safety), we made carpool lanes to encourage ride sharing, we mandated fuel-efficiency standards on our auto industry. Sure, they seem like small steps now, but remember how epic they were in the 70s? Remember how everyone thought it was going to cripple our way of life?

High gas prices would force another epic change in thinking down our throats, and that's exactly what we need. Nobody wants to give up luxuries we've all become accustomed to, even if it's in our best interests.
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Old December 12th, 2008, 09:58 AM
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Well, gas here in the Valley (in the Los Angeles area) is averaging about $1.72/gal, but where I have been buying it, it's now $1.63. I know everyone says they miss the high prices because of traffic, etc., but there's no way to judge that here right now, because of Christmas approaching. Traffic here, as bad as it is, is ALWAYS heavier at this time of year. We'll check it out after the kids go back to school on Jan. 12. I don't miss the higher prices at all, for a strictly selfish reason: It's costing me less than half of what it was costing me last summer to fill up!!! I must say that the habits I formed when it was high have remained with me. I no longer just "run out" to do something--I still combine my trips and drive "in a circle", so I don't go out of the way for something. If I need to go across town, I wait till I have something else to do out that same way before doing it (not counting important things like going to a doctor or something like that). It has made a huge difference in how ofter I buy gas, and I really like that.
Anyone out there reading this in Colorado? My son's friend says it's about $1.35 there, and I know that in San Antonio, TX, my friend says it's about $1.25 there. (These prices are for regular unleaded) When we left here last August to go to Maui, it was about $4.35 here in CA, and I think it was around $4.60 or so over there; am I right? I'd have to dig up a receipt to be sure! (It didn't matter...I would have paid $100/gal to be over there! Ha!)
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Old December 12th, 2008, 10:12 AM
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Unfortunately it takes something like high gas prices to change the way we think. We're so wrapped up with luxuries, it's easy to lose sight of (or shrug off) what will truly benefit us and this wonderful planet in the long-haul.

No one really wants high gas prices, but as others have mentioned, it may be what we need to make some very big, important changes.
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Old December 12th, 2008, 10:14 AM
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Well, gas here in the Valley (in the Los Angeles area) is averaging about $1.72/gal, but where I have been buying it, it's now $1.63. I know everyone says they miss the high prices because of traffic, etc., but there's no way to judge that here right now, because of Christmas approaching. Traffic here, as bad as it is, is ALWAYS heavier at this time of year. We'll check it out after the kids go back to school on Jan. 12. I don't miss the higher prices at all, for a strictly selfish reason: It's costing me less than half of what it was costing me last summer to fill up!!! I must say that the habits I formed when it was high have remained with me. I no longer just "run out" to do something--I still combine my trips and drive "in a circle", so I don't go out of the way for something. If I need to go across town, I wait till I have something else to do out that same way before doing it (not counting important things like going to a doctor or something like that). It has made a huge difference in how ofter I buy gas, and I really like that.
Anyone out there reading this in Colorado? My son's friend says it's about $1.35 there, and I know that in San Antonio, TX, my friend says it's about $1.25 there. (These prices are for regular unleaded) When we left here last August to go to Maui, it was about $4.35 here in CA, and I think it was around $4.60 or so over there; am I right? I'd have to dig up a receipt to be sure! (It didn't matter...I would have paid $100/gal to be over there! Ha!)
Here in Wichita Falls, it went down to $1.49 for unleaded.
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Old December 12th, 2008, 11:11 AM
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Our gas prices don't fluctuate with the price of oil....it's still ten bucks a gallon.
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So some folks actually have to THINK to save money.

Well, not this guy. It was a no brainer 8 years ago when we bought the Echo (38 mpg). And it was a no brainer when I got the Corolla 2 years ago (41 mpg). And if you still driving an SUV, or some other gas guzzler, then I admire how wealthy you are. You must be smart.

Folks who think the high price of gas is a cure for our ills are woefully misinformed.

Another group of folks think that when we run out of gas, we stop using cars eventually. That's so silly, it makes me laugh. We will always have PTV (personal transportation vehicles) to haul our butts around in.
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Our gas prices don't fluctuate with the price of oil....it's still ten bucks a gallon.
Most of it in taxes.


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No one really wants high gas prices, but as others have mentioned, it may be what we need to make some very big, important changes.
Like developing some real alternatives and not this feel-good conservation stuff that just delays the inevitable.
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Old December 12th, 2008, 01:03 PM
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Most of it in taxes.
So maybe more city/state taxes on gas which should be dedicated only for road maintenance?
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Dunno why. It's only eight bucks a gallon down the road in Spain.
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Dunno why. It's only eight bucks a gallon down the road in Spain.
Good thing for Spaniards there's a whole lot of public transportation
I'd imagine there's some good public transportation in France too? Never been there, but I know in Spain, Italy and Greece there's pretty good public transportation.

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Like developing some real alternatives and not this feel-good conservation stuff that just delays the inevitable.
Something has to change. Funny, I don't see any problem with the "Feel-good conservation stuff". Alternative fuels=less pollution (less crap in my lungs, thankyouverymuch) ...

http://alternativefuels.about.com/od.../2007bmwh7.htm

BMW has a pretty good things going on there!
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Folks who think the high price of gas is a cure for our ills are woefully misinformed.
I realize I'm really the only one here championing higher gas prices, and to be honest, I would personally hate to see it happen. I will readily admit I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but I cannot think of a way to make our society more eco-friendly that's faster, simpler and would have a higher rate of compliance and participation.

I'm not an expert in anything remotely related to this issue, so I would not be at all surprised if I was misinformed. If there is a better way to make society more eco-friendly and it doesn't involve anything painful like raising the price of gas, I would be all for it.

What is it?

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The problem is getting everyone to adopt the new innovative way of thinking.
It is going to take a President to rally the nation. You may be too young to remember JFK. He was a person with a lot of personal flaws, but he was able to inspire a nation with new enthusiasm, working toward common goals. Does Obama have what it takes? Only time will tell, but YES WE CAN!

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Sure. Nobody said it was going to be easy.
Anything worth doing, is worth doing regardless of the cost.

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Our gas prices don't fluctuate with the price of oil....it's still ten bucks a gallon.
Personally, I have no problem with $10 per gallon for price of gas. The addtional taxes on that $10 gas can be used to pay for the bailouts.
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We will always have PTV (personal transportation vehicles) to haul our butts around in.
I have no idea what you are referring to.

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Something has to change. Funny, I don't see any problem with the "Feel-good conservation stuff". Alternative fuels=less pollution (less crap in my lungs, thankyouverymuch) ...
I see nothing wrong with "feel good conservation stuff" as long as it leads to long term solutions.

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I realize I'm really the only one here championing higher gas prices, and to be honest, I would personally hate to see it happen.
I would like to see it happen. Yeah, it's going to cost all of us a lot of money in other areas too, but in my opinion it is going to happen sooner or later anyway. I'd rather have it happen sooner.

I support your effrorts Zman, you are not alone. But it is only part of the solution. Continue supporting this proposal and I will watch your back.

I am admittedly naive and idealistic, but I would like to see a politician run on a platform of higher gas prices (via additional taxes), I would vote for her.......I think a lot of others would too.
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So maybe more city/state taxes on gas which should be dedicated only for road maintenance?
Taxing gas up to $8/gal A good way to get one's life cut short. Especially for something that the government should have been doing (road maintenance).

Now, if gas prices stay low, I'd say Obama could get away with a 50¢/gal tax if it's promised to go to freeing ourselves from imports.


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Alternative fuels=less pollution (less crap in my lungs, thankyouverymuch) ...
Uh, well, that's an agenda that I didn't think anyone here was concerned about. Where are you? If it was a concern for Hawaii the first step would be mandatory emissions testing like other states have.



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Until someone finds a price competitive way to create H2, it's a dead end.


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I see nothing wrong with "feel good conservation stuff" as long as it leads to long term solutions.
And that's the whole problem. Everyone's dinking around with what looks like to be a 20% solution, leaving the other 80% to be solved. If we can solve the 80%, then we can see if we even need a 20% solution. Maybe the 80% solution will turn out to be a 90, 95 or even 100% solution. And that's the problem I see with all this "feel good" stuff. It's distracting us from the bigger problem that needs to be solved - halting energy imports from hostile nations.
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Fascinating to review the start of this thread in 2008, watching the fluctuations and prices back then. $3.99/gallon at Lex Brodie's in May 2008. $2.08/gallon at Costco in December 2008.

Gas prices hit record high in Honolulu and statewide
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The average price of a gallon of regular gas is $4.512 a gallon, a new state record, according to the AAA Fuel Gauge Report. The price is 2 cents higher than yesterday and .2 cents higher than the old record of $4.51 set on July 24, 2008.

Honolulu also set a new record high with an average price of $4.40 a gallon, beating the old record of $4.39 set on July 28, 2008. The price is about 2 cents more than yesterday and 94 cents higher than a year ago.
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