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  • #46
    Re: Congressional Debate 2010

    Originally posted this in the governor's race thread, sorry ---

    Washington Post chimes in on the dilemma the HI Dems are facing in this contest.

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    • #47
      Re: Congressional Debate 2010

      Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
      Originally posted this in the governor's race thread, sorry ---

      Washington Post chimes in on the dilemma the HI Dems are facing in this contest.
      Good article. Cilliazza has proven himself over the years to be very sharp as a political analyst, and his observations on the developments of the CD-1 race are spot on.

      And for you folks who think that observers from the Washington Beltway (the DCCC, Cook political report, the Washington Post's Cillizza) can't be as insightful on the CD-1 contest as the local "experts," the way this particular race is heading shows that some of the latter are exposing themselves to be tone-deaf to the political landscape in 2010 Honolulu. All the while that the folks in the Beltway were contemplating a possible Djou/GOP victory in the face of Case and Hanabusa splitting the Democratic vote, Sens. Inouye, Akaka, and the old Democratic Machine seemed oblivious to this scenario and kept encouraging the state senate president to continue her quest for Congress. Why? All because the ole' boy network can't let go of their petty grudge against Case.

      Even MidWeek's Dan Boylan has badly misread how this special election was going to play out.

      Polls showing Case and Hanabusa splitting the Democratic vote and giving Djou a serious chance at winning? Silly Mainlanders!!! Polls are for,.... well, according to da Prof.:

      First of all, many survey participants — particularly Japanese-Americans — will say they are undecided when they are questioned about their voting preferences.

      “And that’s not true,” said Dan Boylan, a political science professor at the University of Hawaii. “They just won’t tell a person with a disembodied voice on the phone how they’re voting.”

      Japanese-American women, especially, tend to be underrepresented in polling because they decline to answer — a circumstance that Boylan argued could give Hanabusa an edge in the race.

      “Let’s say there is 15 to 20 [percent] undecided, I would cut that in half in favor of Hanabusa,” Boylan said.
      So just last month, Boylan thought Hanabusa had the edge??? What has he been smokin'? It's either that,..... or he was shillin' for his son's boss, bigtime. (Yep, Peter Boylan is Inouye's press secretary.)
      This post may contain an opinion that may conflict with your opinion. Do not take it personal. Polite discussion of difference of opinion is welcome.

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      • #48
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        Personally, I think that both Senators Inouye & Akaka and Hanabusa are doing the democratic voters of Hawaii a great disservice by staying in the race. She could have gracefully dropped out of the race and urged to her supporters to support Case. and then run a full on campaign for the full term. Shame on them.

        Sadly, it is probably already too late to make a difference.
        "Democracy is the only system that persists in asking the powers that be whether they are the powers that ought to be."
        – Sydney J. Harris

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        • #49
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          One comment I would make to Chris Cillizza's The Fix column.

          In conversations with exasperated Democratic strategists, there appear to be four possible scenarios that will play out over the last two and a half weeks of the race. Here they are (ranked in their likelihood of happening):

          * National Democrats pull out: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has spent $314,000 on television ads attacking Djou, according to the latest reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. (The National Republican Congressional Committee hasn't spent a dime on independent expenditures in the race yet.) The problem for the DCCC is that if they continue to spend at the current rate in Hawaii, total spending will go well beyond $500,000 -- a significant expenditure for a seat that gave President Obama 70 percent in 2008. And, with the fall playing field expected to be one of the widest in recent memory, the DCCC is going to need every available dollar to limit party losses. It's possible then that national Democrats walk away, believing that there is little point in throwing good money after bad in a seat the party is likely to win back in the fall.
          While I agree with Chris that the national Democrats shouldn't bother pouring in any more money into Hawaii's CD-1 special election (especially when Hawaii's own Democratic establishment is hellbent on standing in the way of the one Democrat who has a chance to win this run-off contest), I do take issue with the writer's assertion that the Democrats are "likely to win back" the seat come November.

          I don't know if Cillizza is aware of it, but the same-sex marriage issue is going to energize the vote of those who support traditional marriage. Unlike some states in the South, Christian/evangelical groups have never really made any waves when it comes to elections. But if ever there was any one single issue that can awaken this potential sleeping giant, this is it.

          There's no question in my mind that voters upset/concerned about the legislature's passage of the civil unions bill will provide a boost to the campaigns of both Charles Djou and Duke Aiona. Now, whether that boost will be enough to deliver a victory for either GOP candidate is another matter, and it's too early to say if it will. But for sure, the same-sex marriage/civil unions issue presents another pothole on the road for the Democrats. Remember. Everybody initially thought that the CD-1 special election was going to be a slam-dunk win for the Democrats, and its clearly turned out to be anything but that. So I think it would be most wise for the Dems (national and state) not to take the upcoming general election contest for granted, either.
          This post may contain an opinion that may conflict with your opinion. Do not take it personal. Polite discussion of difference of opinion is welcome.

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          • #50
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            Either Case or Hanabusa has to drop out of the election or it will be an Arizona standoff. They're just gonna Congk Block each other from getting some action.

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            • #51
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              Originally posted by Frankie's Market View Post
              So just last month, Boylan thought Hanabusa had the edge??? What has he been smokin'? It's either that,..... or he was shillin' for his son's boss, bigtime. (Yep, Peter Boylan is Inouye's press secretary.)
              That was a low blow. Next you’ll suggest that Boylan no longer gives Hawaii News Now accurate political analyst banter since his son’s fiancée no longer works as a reporter for KGMB9.

              We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

              — U.S. President Bill Clinton
              USA TODAY, page 2A
              11 March 1993

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              • #52
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                OBAMA CASE PUTTING HAWAII FIRST
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                Be AKAMAI ~ KOKUA Hawai`i!
                Philippians 4:13 --- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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                • #53
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                  KITV factchecks Colleen Hanabusa's newest TV commercial, which attacks Ed Case... but makes no mention of Charles Djou.

                  So much for any sentiment along the lines of "May the best Democrat win" as far as Hanabusa and Case are concerned.
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                  • #54
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                    Originally posted by Walkoff Balk View Post
                    Either Case or Hanabusa has to drop out of the election.
                    For the special election it is too late now since the ballots have been mailed out and are in the hands of the voters.

                    As far as the general election that is going to cover the next two years, well there is the primary election to determine that.

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                    • #55
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                      Originally posted by helen View Post
                      For the special election it is too late now since the ballots have been mailed out and are in the hands of the voters.
                      Case and Hanabusa should take a lesson from a college golfer this week. One college golfer purposely hit a bad shot so that his senior golf teammate can finally go to the big tournament.

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                      • #56
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                        Originally posted by helen View Post
                        For the special election it is too late now since the ballots have been mailed out and are in the hands of the voters.
                        True.

                        Originally posted by helen View Post
                        As far as the general election that is going to cover the next two years, well there is the primary election to determine that.
                        True once again. But the danger for the Dems is that an overly bitter primary battle between Case and Hanabusa might create a rift that is difficult to heal in time for the general election. Even if the loser ends up telling their supporters to support the other Dem, some supporters might end up not voting at all because they still harbor feelings of resentment and animosity for the winner.

                        Remember. A bitter war of words and accusations of mudslinging between Abercrombie and Hannemann during the '86 Democratic primary for congress gave Republican Pat Saiki the opening she needed to punch her ticket to D.C. The same thing could happen if the rhetoric between Case and Hanabusa gets too heated. Once they start airing each other's dirty laundry, there's no way to take it back and to make the voters forget.
                        This post may contain an opinion that may conflict with your opinion. Do not take it personal. Polite discussion of difference of opinion is welcome.

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                        • #57
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                          hi this is sansei and im hoping and keeping good thought's that mr ed case win's and goes to congress is if you remember c djou when he wanted r tam to be put in jail,imoht,who'd want someone like mr c djou in congress and with mrs hanabusa,imoho,she wouldnt be qualified for the job,only case has been in washington and he'd be the best to go to congress and be in former congressman neil a's seat.

                          well thank's for your time

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                          • #58
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                            From the Star-Bulletin ---
                            Djou wins special election for Congress

                            Republican Charles Djou emerged victorious tonight as the winner in the special election to fill Hawaii's vacancy in Congress, giving Hawaii it's first GOP member of Congress in 20 years.

                            Here are the top vote-getters in the 1st Congressional District from the 6 p.m. printout:

                            Charles Djou 67,274 39.5%
                            Colleen Hanabusa 52,445 30.8%
                            Ed Case 47,012 27.6%

                            As of 6 p.m.
                            Source: State Office of Elections

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                            • #59
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                              hi this is sansei and even though ed case wasnt victorious this time,in the general,he'll defeat first colleen h and then charle's djou is im putting in my vote for ed case once again in the primary and general. then i'll keep my prayer's for ed c to be in congress after the general.

                              well thank's for your time

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                              • #60
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                                It's going to be an interesting few months up until the regular election. But I think that Djou has a more than reasonable chance of keeping his seat, even if the democratic vote won't be split the second time around.
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