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  • #61
    Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

    Yes, Las Vegas is still a premier resort destination. It is still "special." But you totally neglect to mention what makes it still special.

    Vegas has undergone huge changes since other cities legalized casinos. Prior to the 1980s, LV pretty much offered just gaming and shows that were targeted at an adult audience. But now, there's more family-friendly entertainment, theme parks, huge premium outlet malls, sporting events (championship boxing, a speedway that can host Indy and NASCAR events), and so much more.
    Aside from the championship boxing, the city I grew up in has every single one of those things- a theme park, three premium outlet malls within an hour of each other (not to mention the OTHER 12 malls in the metroplex..and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head), museums, sporting events, shows, etc. And nobody's exactly rushing to come to Dallas, TX for a vacation. Why's that, I wonder?

    TG's right. LV and AC just have that magic draw to them. I don't care how many commercials they put on TV about their restaurants, shopping, shows, whatever. Most people go to Vegas to gamble. Or at least one of the people in their party are there to gamble. If locals want to go shopping, there are plenty of places to go here on the island. So the "against" arguments are such crap. Vegas isn't going to lose jack if we legalize gambling here.

    This was going on in Arkansas when I lived there, and that state needed the money as badly as Hawaii does. Tunica, Miss was all mad b/c they thought they'd lose money from gamblers. So gambling's still illegal, Arkansas still sucks, and nothing's been resolved.

    ...And these are the days of our lives...

    Can't think of anything creative this time

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    • #62
      Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

      Originally posted by LikaNui View Post
      I think I would be amenable to a lottery, as long as the profits go to schools and charitable causes.
      Originally posted by Kalihiboy View Post
      Have a large chunk go to education and other good causes
      While the money may go to education, what do you think the end result will be?

      I predict that the state would either cut back funding or start shifting expenses to the DOE. Net effect - little to no benefit to education - all the real benefit would go to the general budget and/or political pork.

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      • #63
        Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

        Originally posted by GeckoGeek View Post
        While the money may go to education, what do you think the end result will be?

        I predict that the state would either cut back funding or start shifting expenses to the DOE. Net effect - little to no benefit to education - all the real benefit would go to the general budget and/or political pork.
        I think we would have to see how other states operate who put the majority of lottery funds into education. I think it is Georgia, I could be wrong on this who has been amongst the most successful in this in recent years.

        My high school in AZ was torn down and re-built, as was my K-8th grade schools and several other elementary and middle schools while here we repair existing schools. Not saying which system is better, but I would hope funds derived from the lottery could be put to better use than what we now have in place.

        Aj

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        • #64
          Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

          Well, for most of the mainland, the school funding is done on a more local level. In Hawaii it's done at the state level. I think that gives it a little more equality of funding across counties then you'd find in the mainland. So there may be places in the mainland where an underfunded school did benefit. But I'd sure be looking across the whole range of experience and not a few examples.


          Originally posted by Kalihiboy View Post
          I would hope funds derived from the lottery could be put to better use than what we now have in place.
          Agreed. I don't think giving DOE more money is going to fix much. I believe DOE's problems is more in how it uses the money than how much it gets.

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          • #65
            Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

            Any and every time this shows up on a ballot, I am going to vote it down. I have never been to LV, though I have been to a few Indian casinos. Wherever it is legal it is...ugly. Machines in convenience stores. Blinky signs designed to attract some sap who hopes to **WIN!!**

            I don't want to see it, live around it, raise my children and grandchildren exposed to it. Thus far I have been granted my wish. I understand well the arguments pro and con. My vote will always be no.

            pax

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            • #66
              Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

              My sources tell me that gambling dens close up real fast when the power goes out like a couple of days ago.

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              • #67
                Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                Originally posted by Pua'i Mana'o View Post
                Any and every time this shows up on a ballot, I am going to vote it down. I have never been to LV, though I have been to a few Indian casinos. Wherever it is legal it is...ugly. Machines in convenience stores. Blinky signs designed to attract some sap who hopes to **WIN!!**

                I don't want to see it, live around it, raise my children and grandchildren exposed to it. Thus far I have been granted my wish. I understand well the arguments pro and con. My vote will always be no.
                You bring up some logical, salient and just plain common-sense points.

                I'm against casino gambling here because I think it would sully our island paradise. I've always been for a lottery system, and it COULD be done tastefully and productively, but do I trust Hawaii politicians to keep it that way? HAH!

                So, I'll just keep sending my money out of state each month on the VERY SLIM chance that I might get any return.

                I have ex-relatives who HAVE hit it big - and the hardly deserved it - so I guess it could happen to anyone. $52.00 a year isn't a big investment; some magazines cost more! I don't know how many other people are doing this, but... that money COULD stay here.

                People living in Hawaii have gambling fever. The airlines and travel agencies know it, and constantly ship people to Lost Wages, NV to show them a good time while they fleece them.

                I used to go to school at UC Davis. In the summer I'd go to Tahoe and play craps. I saved my inevitable winnings (never ostentatious) and used it for ski tickets and gear for the winter. Year end I pretty much broke even. Tahoe knows (or knew) how to do gambling with good taste.

                Now, maybe if we legalized gambling on only one island (Kaho`olawe?, Molokai? [Bite your tongue], Ni`ihau? Lanai?), or even shipboard gambling? Nah, maybe not. Of course people gotta have SOME reason to go out on the Lanai....

                A state-run lottery with tickets only at Satellite City Halls? Tickets by mail? Or - get this - sold by students as a fund-raiser! Like they do with coupon books and cookies and krispy creme donuts? They'd get more takers! "Hey, buy a non-fattening lottery ticket!"

                I think we will never see any gambling here. Hawaii is too provincial, to controlled by religious organizations, too conservative (even though we vote liberal, go figger!)

                With all our faults, there is no place I'd rather be... (though I HAVE been eyeing Tahiti lately....)
                Be Yourself. Everyone Else Is Taken!
                ~ ~
                Kaʻonohiʻulaʻokahōkūmiomioʻehiku
                Spreading the virus of ALOHA.
                Oh Chu. If only you could have seen what I've seen, with your eyes.

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                • #68
                  Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                  I'm in Seattle as we speak.

                  Lessee, I've been to Muckleshoot Casino, bought a crap-ton of scratch tickets, and been to some cardrooms.

                  Coulda spent that money in Hawaii.

                  Naw, it went to WA.

                  But then again, I came out even, so nobody won anything.

                  But it was fun while it lasted....

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                  • #69
                    Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                    Gambling in Hawaii would be OK only if it doesn't bring in the mob from Vegas, and retains its local flavor and culture. How about legalized cock fighting on the Big Island?

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                    • #70
                      Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                      https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...088eed4b3f286d

                      No need go Vegas.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                        https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...-move-forward/

                        Winnah!

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                        • #72
                          Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                          https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...no-in-kapolei/

                          Who doesn't get their cut?

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                          • #73
                            Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                            https://www.kitv.com/story/43102850/...s-in-las-vegas

                            What is Vegas concern about gambling in Hawaii?

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                            • #74
                              Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                              https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/...e1c494e2ce9c7c

                              How much you like bet?

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                              • #75
                                Re: Gambling in Hawaii?

                                https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/...s-pushed-back/

                                Follow the money.

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