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  • Re: Homeless solutions

    Loved how the paper noted HPD didn't return phone calls..., nor it seems did the rag typically that is supposed to work in the public interest bother to force an answer.
    Yet absurdly, HPD have always stated that it is a chargeable offense to destroy your own belongings, but this guy can do this? If those carts aren't inscribed enuf to tell who owns them and puts them into question then doesn't the cart belong to whomever is controlling it and thus destroying it should be illegal? Look's like any homeless suffering from this guy's actions can make a citizen's arrest and slam him UP AGAINST THE WALL MO FO!
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    • Re: Homeless solutions

      Originally posted by pzarquon View Post
      "A Hawaii state lawmaker has been using a sledgehammer to address Waikiki's chronic homeless problem, a newspaper reported. State Rep. Tom Brower, D-Waikiki-Ala Moana, has been seizing shopping carts he says are stolen. If they bear no markings, he uses the sledgehammer to pound them into metal for recycling, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reported Sunday. He returns carts marked with store logos."
      Is he a fan of Peter Gabriel?

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      • Re: Homeless solutions

        Originally posted by Mista Bumpy View Post


        Finally, I post a pic I took this morning on Kaiulani Ave, across from the park. Just FYI - We have witnessed public urination in the Waikiki and downtown areas many times before, and worse, but this bozo is just letting all hang out. A puddle has formed in front of him in the middle of the sidewalk, and after he was done pissing, he lay down on the wall with two friends and went to sleep, his filthy little puddle of piss just waiting like a mine field for some kid to jump in or an unaware pedestrian to walk through. Do not think this kind of thing is uncommon. It must stop.

        I haven't lived here very long, and I was shocked when I first saw someone peeing on the wall in the middle of downtown, with all these people standing around, ignoring him. It happens a lot. But what would you do if you had to go and had no home? There are not many public bathrooms downtown and they won't let homeless in to other places like restaurants where they do have bathrooms. Maybe a good solution is to put port-a-potties around? I don't blame someone for having to go in public if they have nowhere else to go. I agree it's gross and shouldn't be done near children, though.

        I live downtown and I have bathroom "issues" due to gluten allergies (similar to IBS) and I find it very annoying that there aren't more places to go to the bathroom (sometimes running home is a bit too far). A big store like Ross should have one for their customers. They got rid of their bathroom and blame it on the homeless, when really they should just post a guard or something to make sure that only shoppers go there. I'm not the only one annoyed about this because I've found other shoppers who feel the same way.

        The city should be doing something about this....
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        • Re: Homeless solutions

          One thing the city could do is something I saw in Atlanta. They have these meters where you can put money into them and they go to the city's homeless or welfare programs. That way you can help them without giving directly to the person (where you might worry that they are going to spend it on booze or drugs).

          I know that there is a big homeless problem here, and it is worse than many other cities. However, I do want to say that the homeless here are very mild compared to other big cities that I've visited. They hardly ever beg for money or anything. They mostly just lie around or sit around (sometimes they're saying crazy things). They don't bother me when I walk by. They can be quite aggressive in other cities, not to mention dangerous.

          Just sayin', they're not that bad compared to other cities I've been to, at least as far as I can tell. I live here, just moved here in August, but we live downtown so we see them a lot. I'm originally from San Diego. They didn't have many homeless there when we lived there in the 70's, but we've visited a lot since then and I have many relatives there. The homeless there and other cities we've been to like San Francisco, Atlanta, and New York, bother passers-by, including tourists, much more than anyone I've seen here. And those cities are a lot less safe, too.

          I don't like the smells or the things I see any more than anyone else, but I also feel a lot of sympathy and sadness for the poor and homeless here. There are a lot of poor people here, and many of them are working poor (and there are working homeless, too). I feel, there but for the grace of god go I. Not every homeless person is a drunk, or drug addict, or crazy, but even so, that's not a good reason to be homeless. When I was growing up, no one even used that word "homeless". There may have been a few "bums" or "hobos" but no one ever knew any. That didn't happen until the 80's. America used to be a better place and took care more of its people.

          I come from a poor family, and my dad was an alcoholic. Without his air force pension, he would have been homeless in his later years. I have two brothers that barely make a living and are one step from being homeless. I have other relatives that are very poor and at least one was living in her car for a while. Who knows what might have happened to me, with different choices? So this is why I feel compassion for anyone who is poor or homeless.

          I think there are plenty of people who feel this way but also plenty who don't want to have homeless people around to scare off the tourists or because they don't like seeing them. Either way, there has to be a way to solve this problem nationwide and not just ship them off to another place.
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          • Re: Homeless solutions

            YAY!

            Too bad the $ donated would be misdirected and wasted (at best) for the most part, but the sentiment is needed.

            While navigating various human debri around ChiTown recently I heard 2 mega bums mention the possibility of The City ever having the basic common sense and deceny of providing portable toilets around the area and (OMG!) maybe even putting in showers at nearby A'ala Park. While some will never care and always corrupt our senses when out and about most road scum would like to take better care of themselves and not live in their communal cesspool. I know I'd like to worry less about poopbombs along the trail.
            Another POV was expressed in the Op-Eds this week by a re-visiting couple enjoying their Sunday stroll downtown and eventually having nature call only to discover NOTHING available anywhere, not even the Fort St. McD's (whom BTW will still not be providing restrooms when they finish recon... thanx for nothing!). They stated they'd not be back. Well played City/State jackholes!
            Brings me to another point of how the treasure of Down/Chinatown is being absolutely disregarded, ingnored, and being wasted instead of heavily focusing on it ala Bourbon St. in N'Orleans and creating an awesome place to visit repeatedly, it's just STUPID. I'm in awe of the place and equally awed at how it's mostly stagnating when it could really thrive. Shameful.

            The issues of homelessness here are mostly an easy fix even if short run costly, but nobody in power wants to actually solve the problems, if they did it would have been done long ago, even in Abe's admin. with his homeless czar. They only squeeze and squeeze the most vulnerable and never access viable alternatives or other improvements. We now have a head of public health (Oshiro) on a campaign against what he admits has never even shown to be a problem and will propose shutting down churches and such from providing meals in public under the guise of caring for public safety. I'd suggest it's pressure from the State Capital to continue efforts of eliminating any and all options the poor have in basic feeding except at Gmt. associated human warehouses where rogue managements corrupt the environments and anything goes except much good. People are suffering and our bigwigs are dumping on everybody but their pals.
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            • Re: Homeless solutions

              Sometimes, when you see a healthy looking younger person who is "homeless", it becomes easy to blame them for being lazy and/or choosing that way of life (with contributing factors being drugs and alcohol ... another "choice" they've made).

              Until you read something like this in today's SA:

              Detectives have opened a murder investigation into the death of an 83-year-old homeless man who was taken to the hospital Tuesday with severe head injuries after he was beaten in Chinatown.
              How can the US have 83 year olds as part of their homeless population? Surly there is a solution to help those "helpless homeless", such as the elderly.

              And what type of person would kill an 83 year old homeless man?
              Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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              • Re: Homeless solutions

                Originally posted by Mista Bumpy View Post
                ... but this bozo is just letting all hang out. A puddle has formed in front of him in the middle of the sidewalk, and after he was done pissing, he lay down on the wall with two friends and went to sleep, his filthy little puddle of piss just waiting like a mine field for some kid to jump in or an unaware pedestrian to walk through. Do not think this kind of thing is uncommon. It must stop.
                In that situation, you can call the police and file a complaint for public exposure. It is a criminal act, and the bozo can be arrested. Especially as parents, we need to protect our children from such lewd behavior. 9-1-1
                Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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                • Re: Homeless solutions

                  Originally posted by Suzanne View Post
                  I think there are plenty of people who feel this way but also plenty who don't want to have homeless people around to scare off the tourists or because they don't like seeing them. Either way, there has to be a way to solve this problem nationwide and not just ship them off to another place.
                  Susi'ana, you are not old enough to remember and most members of HT are not old enough to remember, but matapule remembers. It was President Ronald Reagan and his "compassionate conservatism" that eliminated Federal funding for mental health programs. He said it was the State's responsibility not the national government to take care of the mentally ill......without providing any funding for those programs. Reagan essentially decimated funding for mental health programs and we are reaping the "benefits" today.

                  Homelessness is a complex problem with varied reasons (not just mental illness) and no easy answers. However, withdrawing funding at the Federal, State, and local level has not provided a solution. If you are a religious person you should ask yourself, what would Jesus, or Yaweh, or Mohammed, or whoever...do.

                  Each of us is no better than the least of us.
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                    Originally posted by matapule View Post
                    Susi'ana, you are not old enough to remember and most members of HT are not old enough to remember, but matapule remembers. It was President Ronald Reagan and his "compassionate conservatism" that eliminated Federal funding for mental health programs. He said it was the State's responsibility not the national government to take care of the mentally ill......without providing any funding for those programs. Reagan essentially decimated funding for mental health programs and we are reaping the "benefits" today.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEmcruWTso

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                    • Re: Homeless solutions

                      Originally posted by Amati View Post
                      And what type of person would kill an 83 year old homeless man?
                      Suspect arrested. 18 years old. [Note: Not yet found guilty in a court of law]
                      Hawaii News Now:
                      Police have arrested an 18-year-old accused of beating to death an 83-year-old homeless man in Chinatown.
                      RJ Marsolo of Palolo was arrested Tuesday afternoon in connection with the beating of Mamerto "Eddie" Semana last Wednesday, December 4.
                      The victim was found in Downtown Honolulu near the intersection of Kukui and River streets with severe head and face injuries. He was taken to the hospital in critical condition where he later died.
                      Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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                      • Re: Homeless solutions

                        In a small Missouri town with a mean and backwards thinking police force... http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/home...161904894.html
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                        • Re: Homeless solutions

                          Originally posted by matapule View Post
                          Susi'ana, you are not old enough to remember and most members of HT are not old enough to remember, but matapule remembers. It was President Ronald Reagan and his "compassionate conservatism" that eliminated Federal funding for mental health programs. He said it was the State's responsibility not the national government to take care of the mentally ill......without providing any funding for those programs. Reagan essentially decimated funding for mental health programs and we are reaping the "benefits" today.

                          Homelessness is a complex problem with varied reasons (not just mental illness) and no easy answers. However, withdrawing funding at the Federal, State, and local level has not provided a solution. If you are a religious person you should ask yourself, what would Jesus, or Yaweh, or Mohammed, or whoever...do.

                          Each of us is no better than the least of us.
                          I'm wondering if you read what I wrote... first of all, I'm 52, so yes of course I remember Reagan and all he did. That's why I said in my post that there weren't many homeless people around when I was growing up.

                          I agree with all you're saying. I wonder why you think that I wouldn't, based on what I said, unless you only read part of it or misunderstood.

                          At any rate, while of course it is a national problem, I think most of us are most concerned with just dealing with the local problems, which are worse than most cities from what I've heard.

                          I'm not religious, but as I said, I feel very badly for all the poor and homeless. I wonder, since this is a blue state (i.e. Democrat and not Republican) why we don't take better care of people. I mean, we do have a great health care system, so why has no one raised taxes and provided funds to solve the problems of poverty here in Hawaii? This is paradise, right? It should be a liberal paradise as well.
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                          • Re: Homeless solutions

                            I think the simple answer is that everything "local" is political and therein lies the problem.

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                            • Re: Homeless solutions

                              Originally posted by Suzanne View Post
                              I wonder, since this is a blue state why we don't take better care of people. I mean, we do have a great health care system, so why has no one raised taxes and provided funds to solve the problems of poverty here in Hawaii? It should be a liberal paradise as well.
                              It really is perplexing that we've become such an embarrassment to the world when true solutions are readily available but the will to do anything viable is totally absent, whine and mime is all our so-called leaders can do. Dem/Rep, it just isn't a priority except when it affects Waikiki and even then they still do nothing but flap their wings. The housing first plan can work for some but the problem is way beyond such attempts, it's a bandage on a burst artery. And then there's the monetary fraud that has already occurred (West side) and stifled much good out there, which is to be expected and yet where was sufficient oversight?
                              As someone mentioned in the SA's op/eds today, why can't available portable showers and laundry vehicles used only for disaster relief be used to help the worst offenders in these times of social disaster? They don't even put portable toilets around so tourists can relieve themselves and bums don't have to crap all over town, even tho many still will now that it's become the norm.
                              Chinatown is a trash covered gem being wasted and it's disgusting to watch our city devolve into a dump even as some try to improve the once crime/porno/hooker heavy area and worthy businesses attempt to make it there. It's absolutely stupid and inexcusable.

                              Caldwell and Abercrombie deserve to be tossed out asap if they continue to refuse these most basic needs.
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                              • Re: Homeless solutions

                                Interesting to note the hypocritical and life-endangering difference in law enforcement between the obsessively biased attention to ADA requirements given the squatters once around Thomas Square and HPD's 'who cares?' attitude to those now encamped en mass along Iwilei Rd. at the Aala side of The Salvation Army building where all pedestrians are forced into the street to get past an entire block of tents and rubbish hogging the whole sidewalk. No option of taking the other side of the street as it's coned off for construction and probably has been for months. Nice to see our City/State officials and HPD turn a typical blind eye when they want to, despite the blatant perils, yet focus like a laser when crybaby's squawk. Such classic BS, and it'll be one helluva lawsuit we'll be paying for if someone get's hit because of this crap.
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