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  • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

    Originally posted by Nobunaga View Post
    Ban em!
    I must admit, I did enjoy playing with fireworks when I was a child,
    What happened to "Do as I do and not Do as I say?"

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    • Re: Ban New Years fireworks? HELL YES!!!

      Originally posted by LikaNui View Post
      As far as I'm concerned, anyone who does anything that harms children should be sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole.
      Just throw every parent and teacher into the pokey, then. No arguments required or permitted.
      May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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      • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

        I don't know if you're joking or if you just completely missed the point.
        Whatever.
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        That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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        • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

          I suppose so, it seemed you were merely blathering a subconscious inanity, so I provided more of the same [in the spirit of unity].
          Last edited by salmoned; January 3, 2011, 11:16 PM.
          May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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          • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

            Originally posted by salmoned View Post
            I suppose so, it seemed you were merely blathering a subconscious inanity, so I provided more of the same [in the spirit of unity].
            So you're saying that my standing up against those who harm children is inane.
            Okay. I can live with your opinion of me, very easily.
            I don't know you, I have no intention of arguing the point with you, and your opinion of me means nothing to me.
            Have a real nice day!
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            That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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            • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

              No, I'm saying you posted an inane comment in this thread - no standing up was observed or required on your part. I have no opinion of you, don't know you, don't want to know you. I do have an opinion on the comments you've posted and I'm happy to share it. It's good you don't intend to argue the point, since you have no point to argue. Finally, I'm having a fine day, thanks!
              May I always be found beneath your contempt.

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              • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

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                That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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                • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                  Whew! Glad that's settled!

                  Didja notice that the old poll at the top of this thread ended up with an even 50/50 split? So much for a dominant voice emanating from HT'ers; perhaps because this isn't a liberal/conservative issue, unlike so many that we discuss.

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                  • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                    And here I thot it was just cons who're dumber than rocks...

                    There really is no justifying the furthering of so many dangers in 2011, only the immature and sour-grapers for nostalgic nasty nonsense are bummed. For the rest of the community, the ban was way overdue.
                    https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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                    • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                      Originally posted by Leo Lakio View Post
                      Whew! Glad that's settled!.
                      I never could figure out what they were trying to settle It was way too esoteric for me!
                      Peace, Love, and Local Grindz

                      People who form FIRM opinions with so little knowledge only pretend to be open-minded. They select their facts like food from a buffet. David R. Dow

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                      • Settled?

                        Originally posted by matapule View Post
                        I never could figure out what they were trying to settle It was way too esoteric for me!
                        I don't think anything is settled.

                        It's a matter of one opinion against the other.

                        My opinion is that fireworks have no place in civilized society.

                        Others believe that fireworks are essential for their spiritual passage from one year to the next.

                        So we have no deaths and 36 calls to fire dispatch categorized as probably fireworks-related. Several injuries and no deaths.

                        Let's compare this to auto-related injuries, per day. Pretty close (no I haven't re-checked he statistics, just going on memory), but we aren't banning cars.

                        Why? Because we perceive cars (transportation) as a necessity and fireworks as entertainment. It's reasonable.
                        Be Yourself. Everyone Else Is Taken!
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                        Kaʻonohiʻulaʻokahōkūmiomioʻehiku
                        Spreading the virus of ALOHA.
                        Oh Chu. If only you could have seen what I've seen, with your eyes.

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                        • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                          A very quick search turned up these instances of children injured by fireworks, just in the past few years. What staerted me thinking about it was remembering the 14-year-old girl who lost an eye in Waimanalo just a couple of years ago.In addition to her....

                          Wai'anae. At 12:15a.m., a teen sustained fireworks-related injuries and was taken in serious condition to a local hospital. 12/31/2009

                          Wailuku. Two teenagers were reported to have been burned when fireworks exploded in the back of a pickup truck. 12/31/2009

                          Waimalu. Paramedics responded to a call of a child under 10 who was injured by fireworks. 12/31/2009

                          "Girl Recovering From Injuries In Fireworks Explosion – Police Search For Suspects In Illegal Fireworks Case", http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news...02/detail.html "Man arrested in girl's fireworks injury", 8.1.2005, http://www.kpua.net/news.php?id=4197: A man (33) turned himself in at the main police station last night and was booked on one count each of first-degree reckless endangering and second-degree assault. He was released without charges pending further investigation. The arrest came a week after a home-made explosive device blew up during the New Year's Eve celebration in Aiea. The blast injured Cyndee Somera (11), who suffered broken bones in her wrist and severed tendons in her fingers.

                          "Feds may charge fireworks suspects", 12.1.2005, http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ln/ln03p.html: A New Year's explosion that shredded Cydnee Somera's (11) hand could become a federal case because it involved an "improvised explosive device" similar to what has been used by insurgents in Iraq.

                          "Police arrest 2nd suspect in connection with fireworks blast", 12.1.2005, http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?s=2786189: Marc Bantolina (35) reportedly turned himself into police. He was booked for reckless endangering and second degree assault.

                          "2 charged in New Year's explosion on Aiea street", http://starbulletin.com/2005/12/23/news/story02.html: Prosecutors have charged two men with setting off a homemade bomb that severely injured an 11-year-old girl in Aiea last New Year's Eve. The men were each charged with second-degree assault, first-degree reckless endangering, third-degree criminal property damage and possession of a prohibited firearm.

                          "Explosion that maimed girl cost men weekends in prison. Victim, family outraged by judge's ruling for bomb makers, 19.11.2008, http://www.kitv.com/news/18020256/detail.html , "Men who hurt girl with explosive device get weekends in jail", 20.11.2008, http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=9383072 and "Fireworks injury leads to jail", 20.11.2008, http://www.kpua.net/news.php?id=16476: Honolulo. Two men whose New Year's explosion maimed a girl, received less than a month in jail on November 19, 2008. Cydnee Somera suffered injuries to her left hand when a homemade device exploded near her on Kihale Street in Aiea during the 2005 New Year's celebration when she was 11. The blast was so powerful, it took out car windows. She underwent six surgeries on her hand. – Ea was convicted of reckless endangering, criminal property damage and assault, Bantolina was convicted of reckless endangering. The judge sentences Ea to 12 weekends in jail and 250 hours of community service, Bantolina to 2 weekends in jail and 100 hours of community service.

                          Honolulu. The number of injuries reported from recent Fourth of July fireworks season was the highest since the State Department of Health began keeping records: 57 people hurt (2004: 32, 2003: 17).

                          75% of those injured were under 18.

                          Most injuries were to children 14 years old or younger (four are between 6 and 9 years old).

                          Males were injured more often than females (3-to-1).

                          Most injuries were burns.

                          There were 115 fireworks injuries this year, 2004: 72, 2003: 59, 2002: 80, 2001: 59.

                          "July Fourth fireworks injuries keep growing, at 57 this year", 29.7.2005, http://starbulletin.com/2005/07/29/news/story11.html

                          Ewa Beach. Three people were apparently attempting to put up a pole to string fireworks when the pole came into contact with a power line and they were shocked. A girl (16) and a boy (18) were last listed in critical condition. A man (38) was reported in serious condition. 30.12.2004

                          Hawaii. Statistics showed there were 9,929 fireworks permits issued statewide in 2000, with 44 reported fireworks-related injuries. In 2001, 7,963 fireworks permits were issued with 85 reported injuries. In 2002 there were 9,086 permits issued and 59 reported injuries.

                          Property loss statewide to fireworks was $14,300 in 1999, $360,000 in 2000, $621,400 in 2001 and $1,700 in 2002. Source: "Senate appends restrictions to fireworks bill", 15.3.2003, http://starbulletin.com/2003/03/15/news/story6.html

                          Waialua. A boy (15) suffered chest and abdominal wounds in a fireworks mishap about 8:15 last night. Ambulance officials said the boy suffered a "blast injury" to his back. 4.7.2003

                          Source: "Teen suffers fireworks 'blast injury'", 5.7.2003, http://starbulletin.com/2003/07/05/news/briefs.html

                          And all of that was just a very very brief search.
                          And all were here on Oahu.
                          I love professional fireworks shows. But leave it to the professionals. Children don't get hurt that way.
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                          That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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                          • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                            http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...121005924.html

                            A 44-year-old Honolulu man accused of importing illegal fireworks, some of which were destroyed in an explosion at a Waikele bunker on April 8, has been charged with several counts related to smuggling illegal fireworks into the country. Federal authorities filed a complaint today in U.S. District Court against Gifford Chang for smuggling goods into the United States, making false statements to illegally bring goods into the country, and importing explosive materials without a license.
                            I wonder if Chang can sleep at night .... 5 men are dead because of his seeking profits by an illegal importation of fireworks.
                            Now run along and play, but don’t get into trouble.

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                            • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                              I think it's the people that use fireworks recklessly that give it a bad name. When is too much too much?
                              Life is what you make of it...so please read the instructions carefully.

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                              • Re: Ban New Years fireworks?

                                Originally posted by craigwatanabe View Post
                                I think it's the people that use fireworks recklessly that give it a bad name. When is too much too much?
                                In Mr. Chang's case, it seems it was quite some years ago.
                                https://www.facebook.com/Bobby-Ingan...5875444640256/

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