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  • Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

    I noticed a very offensive letter to the editor in the HTH on Sunday. In short this Hilo resident said people living in Puna are whiners because they are complaining about a lack of infrastructure.

    http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/.../letters03.txt

    I read the recent Tribune-Herald stories about Puna's road and traffic problems, and the state Department of Transportation's plans to improve them.

    It seems like there was a lot of whining during those meetings about the roads. It's as if the people of Puna awakened recently (and suddenly) to the realization that they live ... IN PUNA!

    People, why did you move to Puna if you wanted all the services and amenities (and roads) offered by a place that's a little less rural, such as Hilo? Didn't you pay a lot less to buy property there? Didn't you want to live a more rural lifestyle? There's a reason Puna has always been cheaper than "the city," you know. Less infrastructure!
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    Re: Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

    What exactly is offensive about this letter?
    I'm disgusted and repulsed, and I can't look away.

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    • #3
      Re: Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

      Why exactly do you find it offensive?

      The guy's got a pretty good point.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LeiKaina View Post
        What exactly is offensive about this letter?
        Implying that people living Puna are whiners. Puna residents pay taxes also and deserve adequate infrastructure like any other part of the island.

        Originally posted by Palolo Joe View Post
        Why exactly do you find it offensive?

        The guy's got a pretty good point.
        I disagree why should areas like Hilo have great infrastructure. When areas like Kona, Kohala and Puna are stuck with inadequate infrastructure.In short the guy is saying we should all move to Hilo if we want great infrastructure and services.
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Konaguy View Post
          Implying that people living Puna are whiners. Puna residents pay taxes also and deserve adequate infrastructure like any other part of the island.
          I think the person who wrote the piece may be a little blunt but I don't find anything wrong. You are right that Puna residents pay taxes too but I don't think their amount of taxes would cover infrastructure to reach all the way out to Puna and be at the same quality level as in town like Hilo's. It's like the guy living out in the middle of nowhere, up on a hill, and expecting police, paramedics, or firefighters to have the same response time as in the city.

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          • #6
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            Aaron, I guess it boils down to everybody is gonna have an opinion. You and Tim can come off a bit harsh too about the politics around your neck of the woods.

            I'm not sure I see this letter as being offensive. I'm kinda with this guy (or girl) in thinking that if you live country you know you are giving up some things for a rural life. If you don't like country life, then sell and move to somewhere that fits your needs better. At least that's how I think.
            I'm disgusted and repulsed, and I can't look away.

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            • #7
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              I guess for me what bothers me is the fact that Hilo has shafted the rest of the Big Island infrastructure wise. This letter is just another nail in the coffin to that fact. Bottom line is this fact, there is a huge disparity infrastructure wise between Hilo and the rest of the island. The ugly part of this is the fact that whenever someone complains about this, they are called a whiner.

              I know my politics are not popular. But this aint no popularity contest. I call it as I see it. What I see is everywhere outside of Hilo is getting shafted.
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              • #8
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                Let's be honest. Folks in Puna are not known for their rationality or their intellect. Check out their council representative if you need further proof. Like a poster child for the illiteracy movement.
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                • #9
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                  What's wrong with wanting good roads even in the rural parts of the island? Kona's problems are about rapid/rampant development. Puna's are more about neglect. The expectaions of new residents with respect to roads whether in the east or west are similarly motivated as I see it.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

                    Low Density Development is the basic problem in Puna. Roads and infrastructure cost a certain amount per mile, or per 'whatever'.

                    When you have less people in an area, it costs more, per person, to put in those improvements. If densities were higher, more people per acre, then the cost, per person, would be less.

                    Hokulia and Puna are very similar land uses. Everybody has an acre or more. But the folks at Hokulia got the bucks to run water and sewer all that distance.

                    Puna is a terrifying misuse of land the same way as Hokulia. In the long run, if we continue to spread out, and everybody needs a SFR, then we will turn Big Island into Orange County.

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                    • #11
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                      Modern highways in low density States have always been subsidized by high density States. Nothing new. Same principle.
                      “First we fought the preliminary round for the k***s and now we’re gonna fight the main event for the n*****s."
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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by sinjin View Post
                        Modern highways in low density States have always been subsidized by high density States. Nothing new. Same principle.
                        Yep, socialism at work!

                        My brother is a farmer in Puna. He moved there to get away from the big-city life in Hilo. He refers to it as the Wild West. He only got electricity a few years ago. He does not expect big-city amenities.

                        I'm more fascinated to learn that Hilo has fantastic infrastructure.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by buzz1941 View Post
                          Yep, socialism at work!

                          My brother is a farmer in Puna. He moved there to get away from the big-city life in Hilo. He refers to it as the Wild West. He only got electricity a few years ago. He does not expect big-city amenities.

                          I'm more fascinated to learn that Hilo has fantastic infrastructure.
                          Actually federalism at work. I too find it funny to think of Hilo as well-appointed in the infrastructure department.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

                            1) what does "adequate infrastructure" mean?

                            2) where are the new subdivisions in Hilo? Outside of Kaumana Uuuuuuka, there's nothing new going on. This may well change when the forest between Waiakea Uka <--> Kaumana opens up for new development, but barring that, Hilo itself qualifes as a maturing city.

                            3)Something funky about Kea'au: Shipman couldn't get a light approved at their Shipman Park entrance/exit which is on the Pana'ewa Stretch (that part of the hwy that is several miles long and separates Hilo from Puna) by the County Council. Talk about a big lawsuit waiting to happen, when that big accident between slow-moving rig gets T-boned by the auto-barrelling@60mph. Shipman is going to have to open up their 3-way light into a full intersection at the Kea'au bypass, after they develop more roads from behind Shipman Park into that area. Big plans, millions at stake, and lots of prayers that the Accident™ doesn't happen before then.

                            On the other hand, why Shipman doesn't open up Railroad Ave so that Puna has a ma kai road is beyond me. They catch the blame for an obvious solution.

                            Further, Kea'au is stupid. They have a loser mall anchored by an inethical supermarket that gouges their customers. There is a pawn shop and a bar across the street of their middle school. In fact, Kea'au could be beautiful, with a strong pedestrian footprint, as there are several school complexes w/in 1 mile of the town. I mean "middle-class" beautiful. There is a lot of wealth in Puna, regardless of the reputation given by the "wild wild west" nick.

                            Finally, for years and years, each district bled while the county remained in the black, soley for the sale of cheap land in Puna. Puna deserves more than it gets. I agree with Aaron.

                            pax

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                            • #15
                              Re: Offensive Letter To The Editor About Puna

                              This is a question, not a statment of sarcasm....


                              Could it be that the people who live in PUNA are called whiners becasue many of them are newly arrived mainlanders who bought and built there, and whom are used to the (possibly) more solid infrastructres of where they moved FROM ?

                              Visit www.punaweb.org, read the forums and see how many people living there are from more "established" mainland towns and cities, who wanted to live in "paradise"...retirees,etc.... These people most likely want the same level of infrastructure they were used to in their former hometowns, and PUNA maybe just isn't quite there yet.

                              Many people live there, completely off the grid, in unpermitted housing, as well as the people doing it by the book, making it sort of a transitional area.
                              Most people in that punaweb forum really love it there tho', and deal with some of it's inconveniences, tho' there is alot of outcry as well.
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