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    Well, the folks next door have been shooting off aerials and strings of firecrackers and what sound like IEDs all day long, starting at 8 a.m. Police just drive by and wave. I thought this stuff was illegal. Do the police actually issue citations for fireworks violations? I'm talking big rockets and stuff.
    Burl Burlingame
    "Art is never finished, only abandoned." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
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    The problem is that the police would have to actually witness the launching and who lit it off to actually cite anyone. But I have to wonder if they even bother with warnings.

    I've seen at least two different places in my neighborhood launch mortars.

    The truth is, I don't think there's any political will to crack down on it. It's probably going to take some more deaths before anything happens. (We already had one a few years back.)

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      Originally posted by GeckoGeek View Post
      The problem is that the police would have to actually witness the launching and who lit it off to actually cite anyone. But I have to wonder if they even bother with warnings.

      I've seen at least two different places in my neighborhood launch mortars.

      The truth is, I don't think there's any political will to crack down on it. It's probably going to take some more deaths before anything happens. (We already had one a few years back.)
      We have MWD's in Kailua. Enchanted Lake region. Accompanied by rock music.

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        Originally posted by GeckoGeek View Post
        I've seen at least two different places in my neighborhood launch mortars.
        Okay, let’s not exaggerate here. Aerial fireworks are fireworks. Plain and simple. And police have been cracking down. Like illegal drugs, you have to eliminate the source. Even if you caught a John Doe end-user red-handed, it would have little or zero effect on the problem.

        We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.

        — U.S. President Bill Clinton
        USA TODAY, page 2A
        11 March 1993

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          Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
          Okay, let’s not exaggerate here.
          Who is exaggerating? Google "Fireworks Mortars" and you'll get hits. They exist. The sound is different. A mortar has a deep "thud" as it's fired out of it's tube and a second or two later there's the overhead burst. A rocket is a pffffffft as it flies upward. There were at least 3 different sites in the neighborhood in Kaneohe that were doing "thuds". I ain't talking about the small stuff that launches a firecracker in the air. I'm talking about a "shorter" version of what the pros use. It must go up at least 100'.

          Originally posted by TuNnL View Post
          And police have been cracking down. Like illegal drugs, you have to eliminate the source. Even if you caught a John Doe end-user red-handed, it would have little or zero effect on the problem.
          Chicken and egg. If there are no buyers, there won't be any dealers. Unlike drugs, it's a bit hard to hard for the users to hide from the neighbors. On the flip side, if there's demand, then someone is likely to come forward and be the supplier. There are practical issues about going after the users mainly what the police have to witness to make an arrest. The most effective weapon here is probably public opinion. Maybe if a few more houses burn down people will change their minds.

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            When my lovely neighbors stopped setting off IEDs, they fired up the leaf blower at 3 a.m. to blow their trash into the street.
            Burl Burlingame
            "Art is never finished, only abandoned." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
            honoluluagonizer.com

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              Yesterday's fireworks induced brush fire notwithstanding...each year Makaha is relatively calm which is why I love staying home. There were 2 families on opposite ends of the beach in front of my condo. Each had what I'd consider to be a basic fireworks package...nothing that went thud or was loud enough to reverberate off the building's walls! I loved watching the fountains and hearing the kids squeal with delight. The beach was clear by 10p. At midnight the muted sound of firecrackers wailed in the distance ushering in the new year. That lasted about 15 minutes.

              The best part of last night? No stabbings!

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by tutusue View Post
                The best part of last night? No stabbings!
                Happy New Year!
                Burl Burlingame
                "Art is never finished, only abandoned." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
                honoluluagonizer.com

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by buzz1941 View Post
                  When my lovely neighbors stopped setting off IEDs, they fired up the leaf blower at 3 a.m. to blow their trash into the street.
                  Just another reason why some folks favor capital punishment.
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                  That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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                    Originally posted by buzz1941 View Post
                    When my lovely neighbors stopped setting off IEDs, they fired up the leaf blower at 3 a.m. to blow their trash into the street.
                    Well, you could do what my mother did many years ago. The neighbors seem to be getting into the habit of late night noisy parties. So the next morning, out comes the record player and polka music. The other neighbors figured out what was going on and had a good laugh.

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                    • #11
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                      Why don't the state just designate areas that can go crazy with aerials and simply ban it everywhere else? It don't matter who launched it, if it took off from a certain property, property owner gets fined. Simple and effective. Even if the owner didn't do it, how much you wanna bet that owner will make sure no more aerials go off on his/her property? Just designate open areas facing the beach as areas that allow people to light their aerials, you figure that would actually decrease the chance of fire too since they will now have to fire out to the ocean.

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                      • #12
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                        IED's goin off at midnight.
                        Rat-tat-tat of gunpowder burning.
                        Rockets flying overhead.
                        Smoky, burnt smell wafting through the air.

                        And you say that more active security, or a crackdown by authorities will cure the problem.

                        I thought we were trying to bring the troops home??

                        Half of you people make no sense at all, and actually consider yourselves intellectual.
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                          Originally posted by GeckoGeek View Post
                          Well, you could do what my mother did many years ago. The neighbors seem to be getting into the habit of late night noisy parties. So the next morning, out comes the record player and polka music. The other neighbors figured out what was going on and had a good laugh.
                          LOL---that's cute.

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                            We had to go talk to the neighbors today. They cleaned up their yard by tossing everything into ours. So after we asked nicely that they "finish" cleaning up, they fired up the leaf blowers and blew the rubbish into the street.

                            In case you're wondering, they work for HFD.
                            Burl Burlingame
                            "Art is never finished, only abandoned." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
                            honoluluagonizer.com

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                            • #15
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                              My neighbor's son in law must have spent almost $2K on fireworks for last night, and the majority of them were aerials. They were quite the spectacle, IMO, and we enjoyed watching them go off.

                              Son in law is a 12 year veteran of the HPD. A couple of his buddies even drove by in squad cars to wish all of us a Happy New Year.

                              The cops who patrol my neighborhood don't care as long as no one gets hurt and no fires get started. It's been that way for years now.
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